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Well ... that's a start, at least.

Hmm ... a press without the crimp might work, just using the waterglass for sealing.

Not at all sure about the wisdom of that, and this may expand the cases more than the black powder did/would.

Not a good idea unless you *really* know what you are doing. See the last quote from their web page near the bottom of this article.

Note that there are smokeless powders made to substitute for black powder in arms designed for black powder. The one of which I know is called Pyrodex. In particular, look at the following page:

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which deals with Pyrodex in shotguns.

Also, in terms of cleaning the weapon after firing, this is from another section of the pages on the product:

====================================================================== Pyrodex does produce a corrosive residue from combustion. Even though this fouling is softer than the fouling produced by blackpowder, firearms should be cleaned after each use. Hodgdon Powder Co. recommends the use of natural cleaning solvents including water. ======================================================================

Also, in the section on using Pyrodex in metallic cartridges:

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====================================================================== Cartridge cases that have been fired using Pyrodex require special care. As soon as possible after firing, cases should be de-primed and immersed in white vinegar. The acidity of the vinegar will neutralize the corrosive residues remaining in the case. Care should be taken to limit the soaking time of the cases in the vinegar to 10 minutes. Soaking for a longer time may cause etching of the brass case resulting in shortened case life. Rinse cases with clear water, dry and polish in a tumbler with corn cob or walnut shell media. ======================================================================

In the main section on Pyrodex:

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====================================================================== NEVER mix any two powders regardless of type, brand or source. NEVER substitute any smokeless powder for Black Powder or for Pyrodex®. ======================================================================

Not sure that rec.pyrotechnics is the place to go for propellant in firearms. I would not go there for that.

Good Luck, DoN.

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DoN. Nichols
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Yikes, If he's using the slowest burning grade of smokless, he'll blow his shotgun apart. Then he won't have to worry about case expansion anymore.

I would suggest you get a copy of the Lyman Shotshell Reloader guide and select a load from that book.

Ammunition reloading is not something to be done by guesswork. Listed loads have been pressure tested and are safe to use.

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Tony

The only smokeless loads I've seen were in that Handloader's Digest article from many years back. You don't load shotshells like any other ammunition, you have to find a receipe and stick with it, no substitutions. A lot of shotguns are made on the lower end of action strength, you can easily escalate pressures above what they'll take with simple substitution of components. Mixing of smokeless powders at home with no pressure equipment is a good way to lose some appendages. The smokeless powders of the late 1800s were bulk powders, volume for volume equivalent with black powder. There are none of that type being made today and using the current dense progressive-burning powders that way is a good way to blow up a gun. Blackpowder(or one of the replica blackpowders) is probably the safest propellant to use with brass shotshells in the absence of pressure-tested smokeless data.

Now there's a shop project for you, build a pressure gun for shotshells.

Stan

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Stan Schaefer

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