My mom and dad want to buy my 5 year old a 4 wheeler for Christmas and
found a person who buys them and assembles them to sell. A 110 camo
was 579. A 125 was 799.
Where do people order these things from to re sell and are they junk?
The person on the phone said they were identical to a Honda in terms
of the engine and somethign abotu the company buying a patten from
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:32:21 -0800, stryped wrote:
Well, lessee -- they're hard to get, there's no one established who's
willing to sell them, and they come from China.
Does the phrase "Chinese Copy" ring any bells?
Ask yourself the following questions, then make your own decision:
"Where am I going to get repair parts?"
"Who do I go to if it dies on day #2?"
"Who do I go to if it dies _and_ injures my kid on day #2?"
It's like with most Chinese stuff. If you buy 100, you MIGHT get 20
real nice ones - well assembled, with good tolerances and metalurgy
that will last 5 years. You might get 20 that are total junk right out
of the box, and 30 that last 9 months and 30 that last 18.
It's not that the Chinese CAN"T make good product - it's that they are
terribly inconsistent, and quality control is next to non-existant -
on the whole.
--FWIW a couple of years back there were a slew of these around and
I bought one with the Honda 150 clone engine. Engine's OK but you might want
to improve the air filtration: it's lousy. Things to be aware of, re:
Chinese vehicles: they don't race 'em and it shows; i.e. steering geometry
is horrible, suspension sucks, brakes adequate; tubing for fluids is wrong,
various other shortfalls. Needs a bigger battery, etc; everything about it
spells 'minimal'. If you're going to beat it to death you'll succeed in
"Steamboat Ed" Haas : Currently broke and
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : looking for a job...
Google ATV accident statistics for children before you make up your mind.
Manufacturers are required to put a 16 year old age minimum on ATVs. The
manufacturers get around this by making them less than a certain cc
Don't take this the wrong way. ATVs are dangerous, and no child that age is
capable of operating one, and I don't care how smart your grandson is.
Hell, I broke my back on one a year and a half ago, and I've been riding
motorcycles for 45 years, and ATVs for ten.
Children that age do not have the capability of processing all the
information it takes for one of these. You are buying heartache if you do
get the kid one, I PROMISE YOU. If you are dead set on getting one, get one
of the major brand name ones, as at least you'll be able to rebuild it when
he crashes and give it to their surviving sibling when they get old enough
to ride according to your standards.
I am serious. The statistics and facts tell you :
DON'T DO IT.
I don't agree with the sixteen year old thing, but I'd say that at least ten
or twelve, and then supervised. Most of the worst accidents happen in two
scenarios: 1. unsupervised rides and 2. carrying passengers. And usually
ANY accident on an ATV is bad. My retired AF buddy crashed his two weeks
ago, totaled it, thrashed $2500 in camera gear, and got pretty banged up. A
grown man who flies airplanes.
It can happen.
Close, The companies (3 of them) actually are using a 70's Honda design
for the engines/trans. They did add CDI ignition though. They also use
the same engines in many versions, So if you buy a 125 dirt bike, 125 4
wheeler, 125 road bike they use the same engine with just a different
I get a few in to work on and they are not badly built. You do want to
go over them close to make sure they are together correctly. And you
will want to check for the vent, fuel and tank overflow, are properly
Parts are available for most of them easy enough. Some parts are
knock-off parts and the original makers parts usually fit. The biggest
problem I have seen is in the carbs. The ones they use are OLD designs
and have a nasty habit of sticking floats and leaks, just like the
originals they copied!
I usually change those out with a good replacement. Makes a world of
A mate of mine got his son of a similar age a Lotus 7 style go cart but
he did ditch the engine and fitted the motor and electronic controls
from a mobility scooter. Kid loved it and it wasn't fast enough to be
dangerous. He used it to play around the garden. IIRC he did use it
under supervision and dad fitted a remote control kill switch just in
case. The latest project was doing similar with a wheelhorse? lawn
tractor. A guy he knew also came to me for some machining on a similar
project, that was to build a miniature Landrover for his god son, again
based on mobility scooter components.
Polytechforum.com is a website by engineers for engineers. It is not affiliated with any of manufacturers or vendors discussed here.
All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.