Dread anyone?

I skipped the meeting, but the Memos showed that snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote on Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:18:19 -0800 (PST) in rec.crafts.metalworking :

You have to remember Dave, that the Ed Huntresses of the world feel that really, all that is necessary is for them to get a chance to sit down a talk with people like the Taliban, or the Nazis, and a common ground can be found. As far as they are concerned, the real problem was that George Bush wasn't willing to ask what we had done to make them so upset as to act out as they did.

All seriousness aside, it would seem that apparently, progressive hold no beliefs strongly enough to refuse to compromise or to defend. And because of that, and the all too human tendency to think of others as oneself, they seem incapable of grokking the idea that someone may actually mean it when they say "Death to the Infidels." That it isn't some kind of colorful metaphor, they really do mean "Convert or Die!"

tschus pyotr

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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:00:51 -0800, the infamous Jim Stewart scrawled the following:

Back-to-back mechanism.

Ayup, just drive the dreadmobile into the ranks of enemy soldiers and fire sideways. Done!

-- Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. -- George S. Patton

For sure it can't be 'no recoil', but if the energy is imparted to the ammo over a longer time compared to using an explosion, the recoil characteristic could be more manageable.

Not that the world really needs another fricken' slaughter weapon.

Dave

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Not really new. The Civil War era supposedly had a steam powered gun that used steam to spin the bullet carrier.

Oh...you mean people on the Ed Huntress Approved list?

Gunner

"Not so old as to need virgins to excite him, nor old enough to have the patience to teach one."

Sure it does. Remember Alfred Nobels sentiments?

Chuckle

Gunner

"Not so old as to need virgins to excite him, nor old enough to have the patience to teach one."

All easily overcome by applied metalurgy.

In fact...with some usage of superconductors, and the proper computer connection...some really scary ballistic trajectories could be applied to each sphere as it leaves the weapon. Tossing them in a curving low to the right with a rise at x distance could be done.

Want to put it in a window and have it travel down the hall and break to the right at the end? Possible.

Pitchers demonstrate that in every baseball game.

And the rounds could be explosive, spin armed fragmentation grenades.....etc.

Select a new feed box, which automatically resets the computer to the charectoristics of the selected ordnance.....nasty..really nasty....

Gunner

"Not so old as to need virgins to excite him, nor old enough to have the patience to teach one."

Ed spent his war years stoned under a bridge in California. Looking at all the groovy lights and talking to the wallpaper. Ickey stuff doesnt happen on his planet.

Gunner

"Not so old as to need virgins to excite him, nor old enough to have the patience to teach one."

Gyroscopic forces will be interesting to overcome while aiming

Gunner

"Not so old as to need virgins to excite him, nor old enough to have the patience to teach one."

it would be a big gyroscope. I would guess the "disk" would always be spinning waiting for projectiles to introduced. So, it would need to be vehicle mounted for a power supply, it would be a bitch to aim because of the gyroscope effect. There would be the heat of the motor and some heat of the balls sliding against the outer walls as they are flung around. Not near the heat of a powder fired gun, but still some heat.

Mythbusters did some sort of gyro-gun awhile back, I only caught a small part of the show.

They claim a muzzle velocity of above the speed of sound, so there most definately would be noise.

Thank You, Randy

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Recoil cannot be overcome by metallurgy.

I think that your optimism as to how many degrees of freedom you can give to a spinning metal ball, is unfounded. I can see how you could impart a curving trajectory to it, but I cannot see how you can manage details of this trajectory so finely, and no that easily at the typical speed of a flying bullet.

But, I always like progress in such military matters.

I am always especially interested in psychoactive weapons that would make opposing forces shit their pants, discard their weapons and run home, without doing any damage.

Seems everyone's first impression is that the rounds "roll" around inside until released. Somehow I doubt it's that simple (minded).

That has some blatantly obvious drawbacks, doesn't it. So why assume a demonstrated working system works that way???

Spin is induced with the spin axis aligned with the flight path. Just like a rifled slug.

There is no recoil (Steve!).

Recoil in a powder driven piece is Newtonian reaction to accelerating the slug down the barrel. Here that reaction would be much slower (over a longer time) and would be expressed as a gyroscopic force at spin up.

Ed was exactly right! The "yeah buts" will bust yer butt every time!

Sheesh

Richard

You dont know much about artillery, do you?

Those have their places as well.

But keep in mind that the horrors of war have to be...horrible. Else they devolve to the levels of rugby scrums which never really solve anything. Resentment, fermenting underneith and ready to break out at any time, is somehow preferable to the knowledge of absolute defeat and a horror of being a bad nation again and what comes of it?

Why do you think McCarther would only accept the unconditional surrender of the Empire of Japan?

Gunner

"Not so old as to need virgins to excite him, nor old enough to have the patience to teach one."

There is some reason here.

Was it really unconditional?

I do not think so.

'Sorry to hear about your friend, but that has nothing to do with you watching snuff flicks. And if you think it does, then it screwed up your mind.

-- Ed Huntress

I don't seek out such footage.

Dave

Damn, is Gunner getting interesting and philosophical on us? Is that part of a thoughtful, longer piece, or just a transient brain hemorrhage? I'll have to pop him out of the killfile and see what he's been up to.

-- Ed Huntress

Well, that's refreshing to hear.

-- Ed Huntress