On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:34:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
Google plus is really just a collective brand name for a bunch of minor services
which happens to include 'communities', photos, circles etc.. The major
services are Gmail, maps etc.
The Google plus brand name may disappear one day, but I doubt they will delete
the data as that's what they use to attract viewers and therefore generate
revenue through paid advertising.
Once you have logged onto a Gmail account you effectively have a Google Plus
account so in practical terms they are the same thing. You can enter bogus
information in your Google Plus profile if you are worried about identity theft
The community I've created is unmoderated. Whether or not Google's own filtering
system is smart enough to distinguish between metalwork related topics and other
junk remains to be seen. The Google Plus woodworking community currently has 374
members and the content looks to be 100% on topic as far as I can tell.
This rec.crafts.metalworking newsgroup is perhaps 10% on topic on a good day.
I think Google+ is something extra, over and above a regular Google
account. I signed up a while back. And then unlike Facebook, found all
sorts of crap being posted from and about, people I know nothing about.
Worse, somehow people were able to spam my calender with bullshit.
Spent a bit of time trying to find ways to prevent all this, if it was
doable, Google sure didn't make it easy. So I bailed on the + account,
and have had no further intrusions into my calender....
I dislike Google (and other web-based fora), so I will probably
not be there.
[ ... ]
I have my doubts -- since it seems to still be discussions, and
I'm not at all sure that Google can tell the difference between politics
and metalworking. :-)
Hmm ... are there provisions for banning someone? Or is the
woodworking one moderated?
FWIW -- today (after not reading yesterday for various reasons)
I found that 6.79% was left after the killfile/filtering did its think
and I unblocked one discussion as wrongly killed. (I recently changed
settings a bit so I see what is killed, and can unkill before it takes
That's a shame; I for one absolutely refuse to give Google my identity,
and they are very steadfast about acquiring it to use their "free"
Same thing with facebook groups.
Regular web-based forums aren't a problem, as they generally accept a
pseudonym, while they still have the moderation to keep the trolls away.
It's getting to the point where most people are so used to losing their
privacy online that they just don't see any problem in handing it over
to Google, Facebook, et al, to the point where I wonder how long it will
be possible to maintain privacy when online.
Hmm... I think that people are so used to lying, making stuff up that
they don't even consider telling the truth anymore...
Maybe you're too honest Jon. Not a bad thing, don't get me wrong, but
I suspect the phony/bogus names, addresses, profiles far outnumber the
The target audience are people who use CADCAM software. The majority
of people that engage in discussions on my LinkedIn group CADCAM
Technology Leaders are end users of CADCAM Software. The group now has
well over 400 members and is growing very rapidly.
Suggest you start a group for machining on LinkedIn if you aren't
happy with what exists now.
LinkedIn is a professional networking site. It has been accepted and
is used by professionals who wish to network far better than Usenet,
Google Plus or advertising driven machinist / CADCAM forums will ever
Even before Usenet and advertising driven machinist / CADCAM forums
started dying, they never succeeded in attracting the kind of
professionals that are now what LinkedIn calls "connections". My
"connections" and the membership of my LinkedIn group CADCAM
Technology Leaders reads like a who's who of the CADCAM business.
As it pertains to what you wish to do, if you wanted say machine tool
company employees to post to your machinist forum, you would have a
much better chance of having that happen on LinkedIn because that is
the site they have already decided to use / that's where they are.
Please don't feed the troll, Mike. But many of us here own businesses
and "do" LinkedIn. I wasn't aware of their hosting discussion groups
for metalworking, but after checking, I found 35 of them there!
Amazing. www.linkedin.com , Groups menu, Group Directory.
I doubt they have the panache of beautiful "this area".
You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore
the consequences of ignoring reality.
From what I understand..Ive been a lInkedin member since its startup.
Shrug...I only recently posted my data and let it do its thing with
I pay less attention to it than I do Facebook. Facebook, I get on
about every 2-3 Weeks and save some of the better photos and whatnot.
Twenty years ago or so these were metal working and had professional
members who helped each other. One company provided a data base for
information to be stored for all to see - this being a news feed and
not a graphic or attachment group. This was long before Yahoo groups,
and even Google. Pre-web for a lot of it.
Nasty politics took over and the metal workers vaporized - as did good
data and help.
On 12/30/2012 9:46 AM, Mike B wrote:
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