Guess the cause of the accident?

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:36:11 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "/." quickly quoth:

BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO PAYS FOR INSURANCE HAS TO COVER YOUR STUPIDITY WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENTS. That's why not.

You chose the $1,000 fix when a $5 one would have done just as well. (Box of cloth bandaids and a tube of Bacitracin, done in 5 minutes.)

Are you still proud of yourself? Do you work for our gov't, perchance?

Two words, Larry: "Veterinary Supply House".

Dave "yes. I know." Hinz

It pretty much all pales in comparison to PTO accidents and fire victims. Nuff said on that one...

Steri-Strips (3M tm) and tincture of benzoin will take care of many lacerations that might otherwise require stitches. The Steri-Strips are like fiberglass reinforced packing tape and the benzoin increases their adhesion.

UGH... PTO accidents are scary in a big way. They generally seem to require a mop, sponge, squeegee, and about 30 pounds of kitty-litter to "recover" the victim.

I narrowly escaped the full effects of one myself a few years ago when (apparently, based on what was found when things were deconstructed) a previously un-noticed horse tail hair caught in the cuff-button of my jacket sleeve got grabbed by a rough spot on the bell-end of the PTO shaft guard, somehow took a wrap around the shaft-proper, and before I even had a chance to register what was going on, I found myself flat on my ass in the dirt several feet away from the tractor, wondering what the hell had just happened. When I picked myself up and shook the cobwebs out, I found that the PTO shaft had ripped the sleeve off the jacket at the shoulder, stripped it off my arm, and the free end of the sleeve was beating itself to rags against the three point hitch. The spookiest part: I was "safely" (or so I thought...) in the seat, reaching back to turn the tension adjuster of the baler - There couldn't have been less than 3 feet of space between the closest part of "me" and the PTO shaft - an operation that I'd done exactly the same way who-knows-how-many times before without anything that even sort of resembled an "incident".

yeah. In this case, the farmer was an hour late coming in for lunch. Tractor was still running when I got there. All I could do for the guy, was to turn off the tractor and try to deal with the family members.

(Snip)

Damn lucky you're alive. Good thing the sleeve let go (to put it mildly).

I recently had surgery to repair a cervical disc. The incision was in my throat and steri-strips were all the surgeon used to close it. Randy

Yeah, that matches almost every one of them I've either witnessed or heard about.

Since then, you better believe I don't wear anything with sleeves if I have to be anywhere near a live PTO shaft, and screw the sunburn/cold that might be involved! "Once bitten, twice shy" might be an old cliche, but lemme tell ya what, it's *ABSOLUTELY* true. It only takes getting sucked off a tractor seat once for me to figure out that there's no such thing as a safe PTO shaft!

Personally, I'll strap up a cut, no problem - but burns I have a lot of respect for. They can turn nasty pretty quick.ANd crush injuries? to the doc RIGHT AWAY. Insurance or no insurance.

Don Bruder wrote: ...

I wonder why OSHA hasn't "solved" this danger? Does OSHA not cover farming? I think their charter is to protect employees, but there are plenty of corporate farms where employees run tractors with PTO's.

Just wondering, Bob

OraGel works pretty well for this sort of thing. As does Numbzit, both of which are for tooth aches. Put a bit in the wound and wait for a few minutes before sewing it up.

Sealed and sterile sutures can be purchased on Ebay occasionally for about $3-5, or about $6 from medical supply companies. Tell em its for veternary care of your livestock. Barbed wire ya know.

Hemostats are handy for this. Sterilized in alcahol of course.

But..unless the wound is huge and wide open..most of the time, butterflys work pretty good, and a smidge of super glue does too.

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."

- Proverbs 22:3

A burn like that..immediately soak your hand in a glass/bowl of icewater. ASAP!!!

Keep it soaking for as long as you can stand it

Gunner

"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."

- Proverbs 22:3

I've seen the "instant ice" packs, pop the inner bag, shake well, apply to injury and good googly moogly is that cold. (I field tested this after I hit my thumb stamping a fixture. Despite a solid hit, no bruising. And I need to replace that pack.)

So, would something like that be effective if you've no ice handy? (Well, yes, as some cold beats no cold.:-) )

It is interesting the number of tool boxes on the floor with at least a box of bandages in them. Mine are in the top compartment. Tend to "be in the way" but, but I know where they are.

tschus pyotr

"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

I've got a spray can of "instant bandaid" on a shelf over my workbench. I hate it when the usual minor scrapes and scratches drip blood onto your work. A quick spray of this stuff stops it and seals it off from dirt It stays on for a few days, then just sort of disappears as you wash your hands.

Useful stuff.

Tom

Alcohol is a s*it-lousy sterilizing agent, being truly effective against only a few minor pathogens. Iodine solution is a *MUCH* better choice.

Super glue was CREATED for exactly this purpose, and practically works miracles. I can't count the number of times I probably should have had a sawbones sink a few stitches, but made do with super glue instead. Quite a few surgical patients and accident victims have had the wounds closed with it over the years, too.

Most recent was chopping onions one night for stroganoff. I managed to misplace a finger, and next thing I knew, I'd laid open the side of my left middle finger to the bone betwen the back of the nail and the first joint, with a big ol' flap of meat hanging from it. And hurt? Sweet mercy, did it ever - Take my word for it: Onion juice in a cut is *NO* kind of fun! Thankfully, it bled like a stuck pig, so the burning stopped in fairly short order, but while it lasted... Hoooo, BABY, light my fire!

Friend of the family who's an EMT desperately wanted me to make the trip to the ER to have it stitched up. No way I was going for that. Washed it out, added a drop of super glue and a tight gauze wrap, slipped a surgical glove on to keep it dry, and I was back in business 15 minutes later.

I caught hell about "putting too much of myself into my cooking" every time I walked into the kitchen for weeks afterwards. :)

Today, I've got a "crescent moon" scar there that looks like somebody drew it on with paint a shade lighter than the surrounding skin, using the edge of a razor blade as the brush - It's so hair-line fine that it's all but invisible.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:37:37 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, Don Bruder quickly quoth:

I prefer povidone + iodine (Betadine on the market.)

Beef blood ain't no bettah, bubba.

Atta Boy, Don. I did the same thing when I diced my right thumbnail in half while cutting stew meat at Mom's one day. She nearly fainted as I cleansed the wound and dressed it, then got back to work. It was nearly invisible in 2 weeks, but for the ridge of scar tissue.

Cooking With Mr. Protein! How many Donner Party jokes did you endure? I only got a couple.

Right. Cleanse, dry, apply antibiotic, add dressing and time = disappeared wounds which gave you no grief at all.

My digit I put a can lid through a couple weeks ago is all but healed. The thing must have hit bone. The bone is still sore but the healed meat of the fingertip isn't. I'm certainly glad the bone was there at the time. Blimey, it might have diced me 'arf the way up to me palm.

- - - Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever. ---

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:37:37 -0800, Don Bruder wrote: Washed it

What's the correct procedure? Apply the glue into the cut or just over the surface? Randy

Dunno if it's "correct", but the only procedure that makes even a tiny bit of sense to me is to lay the skin-flap back/pinch the cut open, put the drop directly on the raw meat of one side or the other of the wound, then put the flap back into place/let the cut close, and apply pressure for a few seconds until the glue sets. Hasn't failed me yet.

Laying the glue on "over" the wound makes about as much sense as trying to stick two pieces of ObMetal together by laying them on top of each other and applying a layer of paint to the edges.

What about bleeding? How do you get adhesion with all the blood? Bob