Harbor Freight - NO PRIVACY

Is your phone number on the national do not call list. If so than you have the telemarketer. When someone calls me i ask their name and tell them I am on the DNC list. You would not beleve how fast they hang up.

Henry Doolittle

Good point, this may be a work around for it. IIRC, if you do business with a company they can still call you.this means magazines you subscribe to, credit cards, etc. Maybe they are using this as an extension of that. Ed snipped-for-privacy@snet.net

I guess I don't understand some folks' obsession with answering the telephone. I know that there are family and personal situations that can and do require standing by a telephone for urgent calls.

That said, I must state the PhoneZap hookup really works. My wife and I have adjusted to ignoring the first telephone ring. Since the second ring depends on the caller pressing 2 on their telephone, auto-dialers are eliminated. We are finding 99.99% of the sales calls are blocked. We have Caller ID on our line to supplement the Zapper if we are expecting a call.

Friends and relatives are quickly trained.

I have no connection to any Zapper business; just a satisfied user.

Jack

WRONG!

Companies with whom you have business dealings may still call to maintain customer relations.

Leading with the names of business with whom the OP was dealing covers their posterior. Unless you're in Wisconsin, I guess.

Lemme guess, you're from rec.woodworking...you've got such a nice, polite way about you.

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September 11, 2001 - Never Forget

That's what that ringing noise is for.

So does the national do-not-call registry. I signed up with my state registry over a year ago, which carried over to the national one, and haven't gotten a single call except from my phone and cable companies since then, and I just told them I didn't want any sales calls and that was the end of it.

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September 11, 2001 - Never Forget

For Zip code, I usually give an old one, the GE Schenectady NY Main Plant. 12345. Amazing how many people don't think that is a real zip.

jk

Easy to do. Just get the first three numbers of your exchange,such as 555 and then start dialing from 0000 to 9999. I bet I would be able to get your phone number.

Regards, Bernd

Ok, I work nights. That means I sleep days. Before the no call lists, I had to take the phone off the hook so I could get uninterrupted sleep. But my bosses complained that they couldn't get hold of me for emergencies. So I had a problem. If I left the phone on the hook, I'd be woken up dozens of times a day by the damn telemarketers. If I didn't leave the phone off the hook, my bosses would be mad at me when they couldn't reach me.

I opted to let the bosses be pissed, because it was the better alternative to my being groggy from interrupted sleep every night at work. But when the no call lists came out, I signed up. Very very few telemarketers now call. I can leave the phone on the hook and count on getting uninterrupted sleep most every day, except when there really is an emergency at work (not often).

For people in my situation, the no call lists have been a godsend.

Gary

Does not work for this. The "do not call" list does not cover the case where you have a business relationship with the company. If you ordered from HF, then you have a business relationship with them.

If a third party buys a list it would apply, AFAIK.

Actually, that's not true. There's a rather large loophole in the list that allows quite a few calls through. Here's the actual FAQ from the Do Not Call List:

If I register my number on the National Do Not Call Registry, will it stop all telemarketing calls?

A: No. Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop most telemarketing calls, but not all. Because of limitations in the jurisdiction of the FTC and FCC, calls from or on behalf of political organizations, charities, and telephone surveyors would still be permitted, as would calls from companies with which you have an existing business relationship, or those to whom you've provided express agreement in writing to receive their calls.

On the other hand, I sometimes enjoy explaining to these "occupiers of space" how I spell "not interested" with three "f" 's (F**k *FF). Gerry :-)} London, Canada

Don't know, but I wouldn't bet on it, companies use call centers all the time. Further, it may apply even if you have terminated the business relationship, ie., a grace period.

I do think the other poster got it right, if the company insists they have the right because you are a customer, explain that you will not be a customer long.

And the charge the store where you bought your stuff up to 5% for handling the money. Ask the store for a 5% or 3% cash discount (or whatever they pay in vendor fee) if you don't charge it. Banks and finance companies are nothing more than leeches, financial parasites who siphon funds from the economy without adding comparable value to the overall proposition. They depend on "stupid consumers" for their survival. Vladimir Lenin, father of Soviet communism called them "useful idiots". Banks think of you much the same way -- a number on a computer that they can bilk for a few more bucks. And the bigger the bank, the worse they are.

CE

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And the charge the store where you bought your stuff up to 5% for handling the money. Ask the store for a 5% or 3% cash discount (or whatever they pay in vendor fee) if you don't charge it. Banks and finance companies are nothing more than leeches, financial parasites who siphon funds from the economy without adding comparable value to the overall proposition. They depend on "stupid consumers" for their survival. Vladimir Lenin, father of Soviet communism called them "useful idiots". Banks think of you much the same way -- a number on a computer that they can bilk for a few more bucks. And the bigger the bank, the worse they are.

CE

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Yup...I agree...banks and finance companies don't deserve to make a profit from the services they render. They should do it for free...and the people that work for them should just donate their time. Of course...then they wouldn't be able to buy the goods & services that the rest of us, more deserving people, provide.

Clarke Echols wrote:

Mr. Echols,

Calling potential customers, "stupid consumers" because we have and use credit cards is not going to help your DC kit sales.

What "comparable value" do you provide? You make and sell DC kits for consumers --- to make money, plain and simple. You take no responsibility for the product design (it's someone else's), and no responsibility for how well the kit works after it's assembled, plus you do not offer a product warranty that I could find.

How does that differ from a bank or credit card company? They also offer services --- to make money.

According to your web site, you state, "We accept bank and postal money orders and cashiers checks as payment" - which cost the consumer.

Then you state "We do not accept credit-card or Pay-Pal because of the fees charged by banks and others to the seller, and we would have to add them to our pricing structure. Many banks (though not all) offer cashiers checks at no charge to regular customers, and postal money orders are usually quite economical."

One could surmise that you are a hypocrite sir.

Your site as well as your business acumen - still need work. The last time you posted here, you tried scare tactics - we still aren't biting.

Bob S.

Were you born an angry stupid person, or did you just work Reaaaaaaaaly hard at it?

Steve