Got my metal lathe and mill in the garage - Significant Other is tired
of me washing my oily hands (and parts) in her kitchen.
Has anyone installed a utility sink in the garage? The issue I have is
the gas water heater, gas furnance, and access to the drain sits on a
16" high platform. No room on the platform to set the sink, so it
would need to go on the floor with a pump for drainage. I'm on sewer -
Has anyone done this type of installation? Type of pump? Total cost?
Should I have a pro install it?
Maybe I'm not understanding so well. You already have the hot
waster tank and a drain in the garage?
A fiberglass laundry sink works out quite well for a shop sink. I
would need to double check, but I think they can make the drain at
16" above finish floor. If you do have plumbing in the wall now,
it has to be going down hill. It is fairly simple in this day and
age of PVC piping to cut into the wall and add a fitting lower if
need be. They come as singles and doubles. Here is an example:
Morality, legality, code issues abound, but a shop sink is often
piped to a drywell as gray water. I tried one of the small
electric inline hot water heaters - never again, total waste of
time/effort/money, though it sounds as if you have hot water
available. If not, a 2.5 gallon electric is common and fairly
easy to plumb. I sure like having a sink in the shop for hands,
coffee, and a million other uses.
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Even if they do not, he may well be able to extend that 16" high
platform on which the water heater etc is mounted to make room
for the sink.
But a shallow stainless steel sink, adequate for handwashing,
will surely fit with room underneath for th trap and drain.
If it's not pretty obvious to you, it might be better to hire a pro, in
the hopes of not missing something that should be "obvious". And/or your
local inspection authority (probably applicable if you are on a sewer)
might make your life expensive if you don't, and connect something to
the sewer in a way they don't like. It's not rocket science, but there
are some subtleties to plumbing, particularly the drain end of things.
Slopes, vents, trap types, length limits. However, there are also books;
try your library. As an educated amateur I've been a bit aghast at some
things I've come across done by uneducated amateurs, such as the house
with no traps at all, which must have been a delight to live in with all
the sewer gas venting into the house.
If the "access to the drain" is 16 inches off the floor, my first
thought is that you might not need a pump at all - simplifies things a
great deal. Just use a sink that's shallow enough that the drain coming
out of the trap ends up that far off the floor, plus 1/8 of an inch per
foot (to allow for proper drainage to the drain, from the sink drain).
If you do need a pump, they are commonly available at real plumbing
supply houses, though the BORGs of the world may not have them. We've
got a few in the basement, I don't recall the brand, but they are
basically a little canister with a big pump in it that lifts the water
from floor level to above the sewer drain (some 4 feet off the floor).
No doubt morally equivalent to a sump pump in a bucket, but actually
packaged for the task at hand, rather than actually being a sump pump in
a bucket. There's a check valve on the output, and the drain from the
high point to the sewer line is sloped as usual (between 1/8 and 1/4
inch per foot).
Before you go hogwild, I suggest you get some hand cleaner and rags and use hand
cleaner without water to get 95% of the dirt off before you come into the house.
When I remodeled my basement 2-car garage plus machinery room into a shop, I put
both a utility sink AND a toilet into the machinery room. Oh, what a relief it
is .. I was getting real tired of that bottle labeled MEN. :-)
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The issue I have is
When you mention "access to drain" above, what sort of drain are you
taking about? The only drain required by the hot water heater is an
overflow drain, and this is not a sanitary drain, i.e., hooked into the
sewer system. Most more modern sink drains (older houses may vary!) are
roughed-in at about 12" above the floor. The pipe will be 1-1/2 or 2"
PVC or cast iron (sometimes galvanized) depending on the age of the
installation. Make sure the drain is, in fact sanitary, before going
If it is, cost to have plumber put in a pump, and required electrical,
is probably around 2K, varying a lot by region. Might be easier (and a
DIY job) to extend the platform, install the sink on the platform, and
stand on the platform to wash your hands. Verify the type drain first,
then study the plumbing under your kitchen sink to help determine what
elevation the garage sink should be, and if it is feasible.
I should have clarified - the access to the drain plug is 18" above the
16" high platform, so it looks like I need a drain pump.
Thanks for all the inputs - I think I'll contact a plumber and wait for
the sticker shock.
> Thanks for all the inputs - I think I'll contact a plumber and wait for
Let us know how it works out, including price and geographical location.
If I picture the situation correctly, a plumber may be able to come
up with a workable solution without the pump. Of course, it's hard to
see through this keyboard. :)
On 31 Dec 2006 13:51:56 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Not necessarily - all you really need is one of the basin and pump
systems like at the top of this page:
No connection, I just Googled and gave the first relevant link. You
can order these through your local Home Depot, Lowe's, Etc. Then go
up and into the drain cleanout you have up on the furnace platform.
Be sure to connect a vent line between the basin and the plumbing
vent system up to the roof, and a P-trap between the sink and the pump
basin - keep any noxious/poisonous gases (H2S) safely contained.
--<< Bruce >>--
You can find that type of setup at Home Depot or Lowe's. Not that big of a
deal to install, as long as you vent it and pipe it properly. Not sure what
the current cost is. Google ejector pump, you should find some examples of a
combo pump and poly tank.
Pretty easy to do. They make deep sinks with pumps aleady for this type
of application. The pump just plugs in so no wiring to do. You can pick
these up at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. THe plumbing piece is pretty easy
also, two outlets, one for the water and one for the vent. I put one in
my shop. Pretty straight forward.
I really don't know the constraints that you have but if room is one of
them, you could make a folding sink that would go against the wall when not
Flex tubing is readily available and cheap.
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