Good you checked in, Gunner. Kinda agree with Jim re. that green wire - a
little scary but OTOH we
don't know where the other end of it goes, so it may just be improper use of
color code. I presume
it ran ok in the past but to be safe you ought to check it out.
Gunner Asch wrote:
Photo 12. Please rewire it so that a hot
phase isn't on a green wire. Makes me cringe
just looking at it...
Check Photo #2
I should mention that in my real daytime job as an independant machine
tool tech...I run across countless cases of 3ph cords being made out of
common 3 wire cable...black/white/green. Not right, not code, but
still emensely common. And has been for many years. Shrug.
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:56:05 -0500, Gerald Miller
That only counts when you do the deed, then you tape it up properly
- but even then it's considered Temporary. You order 10-4 SO cable
and the proper 4-pin Twistlock cord caps and receptacles for each
tool, so it has a real ground connection.
If I ran around taping up every cable like that when I was at a
customer's for a repair job, I could easily waste days at it.
And they usually don't want to pay for it either, amazing how many
foolish people have the reins of the checkbook. I sometimes toss the
tape job in for free when I touch the tool under the "it's the right
thing to do, and nobody else is gonna do it" doctrine.
Besides, if it goes chassis hot I might be the first one to touch it
accidentally. And trust me, that is never a fun feeling.
--<< Bruce >>--
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:08:40 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman
I was down in a shop in Tustin a few years back, checking out a Smith
Lehman lathe...8" spindle bore. I was laying on my back on a concrete
floor, meter in hand checking something, and reached up and grabbed the
machine to pull myself up..and ZAPPPPPP!
There I was, doing a pretty good imitation of a marlin on 200 lb test
and one of the guys came over and kicked my arm hard enough to break my
The owner came running over about the same time, busted into a hard
After laying there a minute or two, getting the ol heart beat back to
somewhere close to normal...I told him it really needed a decent ground,
after I found out where the short to machine was, and that plastic
really didnt make good machine feet insulators if he didnt have a good
ground. I killed power, found the problem, repaired it, installed a
good ground (he was using 3 wire instead of 4 wire) and installed a new
cable up to the disconnect on the wall. And a good ground.
One of the operators commented...."ya know...I tot I vas feeling a
little tingle ven I cranked da levers..but only ven I vor my going home
shoes (leather soles)"
Crom but I hate cheap bastards.
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:14:13 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
Glad to hear that you survived it. So, what's the standard upcharge
for being electrocuted by your client? An extra day's work?
Adults are obsolete children. --Dr. Seuss (Theodore Geisel, 1904-1991)
Yes, I've seen it. I still want whoever did it to live a life of flipping
than routing electrons.
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
I've seen it most often when 14/3 sjo was used for control cable to two hand
controls on a
pedistal. Green was used for power common, white and black were used to go to
the NC and
NO contacts on Reese buttons in series. Seems to happen where the only flexible
the shop in stock is for making extension cords.
I noticed that as well when I first opened up the motor. The rest of
the wiring was rotten as can be, so one assumes that the previous owner
used what he had at hand to rewire the motor.
When I figure out how to control the damned thing...seperate motor on
the table as well.....Ill rewire the entire thing to code. Those two
cables are not..not hooked to anything at the moment, simply dangling.
Still trying to figure out how to control the critter.
Spindle forward/reverse. This also controls table direction.
(Gear driven table highspeed retract in all 3 axis)
Notice the control panel in photo 16.
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:50:25 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch
So, do the Eyetalyuns hire good looking women in short skirts to run
their mills? Floor-level is an assinine position for that CP.
The blind are not good trailblazers.
-- federal judge Frank Easterbrook
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