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</head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> This came in yesterday.<br> For what it may be worth?<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica; color: black; font-size: 10pt;"><br> <div id="yiv8428503877AOLMsgPart_1_be6031c5-5ed9-40f9-a5c1-faae4ca4de46"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="yiv8428503877gmail_quote">Not sure of the time of this, but it is a very interesting and realistic view.&nbsp; <br> Even in view of the "debris field" located in the Indian Ocean which has been called the <br> "Ocean's Garbage Dump".<br> <div lang="EN-US"> <div> <div class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div> <div class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;">&#8220;New&#8221; twist on missing plane.</span></div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">&nbsp;</span></div> </div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Despite the "final conclusion" (and who knows?&nbsp; It is possible that the head of a <br> country that is mostly Islamic could be right about something...)&nbsp;of the Maylasian <br> prime minister, consider these thoughts.....<br> <br> </span></div> </div> <div> <blockquote style="BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:blue 1pt solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;MARGIN-TOP:5pt;PADDING-LEFT:3pt;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;MARGIN-BOTTOM:5pt;MARGIN-LEFT:2.5pt;BORDER-TOP:medium
none;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:0in;"> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Good morning all . . .</span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Given the intense interest in the disappearance of the Indonesian B-777 . . . and a <br> recently received email from a friend . . . I thought that you all might like to read this <br> short message. The author&#8217;s name is Pat. He is a good friend of mine from Federal <br> Express. I was his First Officer (Co-Pilot) for two or three months prior to my upgrading <br> to Captain in 1995. Pat and I then served together as Line Check Airman in the B-727 <br> for a number of years. He is an ex-Air Force F-15 pilot and is now either a MD-11 or<br> &nbsp;B-777 Captain at FedEx. He is a &#8220;straight shooter&#8221;! As a &#8220;courtesy&#8221; I have obliterated <br> his last name and email address.<br> <br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">&nbsp;&nbsp;<b>THE HINDU CUSH</b></span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">an observation:&nbsp; a retired 3-star USAF general said (on Fox News) on 18th of March that <br> Boeing received its last 'ping' from the malaysian 777, while on the ground in western <br> pakistan, in taliban-controlled area, near the afghanistan border.<br> <br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">while flying today between paris and new delhi (LFPG-VIDP), we were going to fly right<br> &nbsp;over that area.&nbsp; when talking with Kabul Control, we were told to "OFFSET COURSE 10 <br> NAUTICAL MILES TO THE NORTH, TO AVOID MILITARY AREA".<br> <br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Having flown this part of the world for the last 3.5 yrs, i have NEVER been asked to offset <br> that much in that area, EVEN WHILE THE WAR WAS GOING ON.</span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;i'm just sayin'&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">&nbsp;<br> <br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">The &#8216;three star&#8217; that Pat is referring to is<b> General Tom McInerney</b>. General McInerney has <br> been a Fox News contributor for quite a while. He comes across to me as an intelligent, <br> sober and connected man. He is always quite measured in his responses and I have never <br> seen him wonder off &#8220;into the woods&#8221; by trying to make people think that he is knowledgeable<br> &nbsp;about subject matter that he has little understanding of. <b>On two occasions (that I have seen) <br> this past week the General has stated unequivocally that the missing B-777&nbsp; is &#8216;on the ground <br> in western Pakistan in a Taliban controlled area&#8217;.</b><br> <br> <b>&nbsp;Two days ago he publically stated on one of&nbsp; the Fox&nbsp; News programs that he had information <br> from Boeing that the last &#8220;ping&#8221; from the aircraft had been when the aircraft was on the ground <br> in Pakistan.</b> The following day Boeing walked that statement back but . . . did not state that <br> McInerney was incorrect. Last night I saw a teaser that the General was going to be on the <br> Sean Hannity show. I normally do not watch Sean but I did want to hear what the General had <br> to say, given his position that is clearly contrary to the story being put out by everyone else. <br> <b><br> Once again General McInerney stated . . . without equivocation, that the aircraft was on the <br> ground in western Pakistan. Sean inquired as to his sources and that General responded that<br> &nbsp;he could not divulge his sources &#8220;at this time&#8221;.</b><br> <br> <br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Now . . . everyone on this mailing is either an accomplished pilot or crewmember. I have little <br> doubt that this mystery has caused you to ponder the question . . . &#8220;what happened&#8221;. I&nbsp; have <br> been involved in several military aircraft accident investigations and the lesson that I have learned <br> from those experiences is to avoid speculation and let the evidence guide you to a conclusion. <br> <br> Frequently things are not what they initially appear to be . . . or, as Will Rogers once mused; <br> &#8216;If things were as obvious as they initially appear . . . then men would be riding horseback side-<br> saddle . . . and not women&#8217;. One infuriating aspect to this story is the plethora of &#8220;experts&#8221; that <br> are dredged up by the media whose knowledge of the B-777 and of typical airline (ICAO and<br> Domestic) procedures is . . . in a word . . . lacking. <br> <br> As one example . . . virtually every guest has Googled the B-777-200ER and noted that its fuel<br> capacity is just over 45,000 gallons&nbsp; . . . a little over 300,000 pounds. Unfortunately, transport <br> aircraft are not like our automobiles that we fill up completely at every fueling. There are specific <br> requirements for fuel that include taxi fuel, climb to initial altitude fuel, cruise fuel (all corrected <br> for wind aloft), descent fuel, approach and landing fuel . . . fuel to the alternate and reserve fuel. <br> The sum of these will be the amount of fuel on board at &#8216;block out&#8217; and that amount will be reflected <br> on the aircraft&#8217;s Weight &amp; Balance paperwork. <br> <br> I flew the B-727 for over twenty years . . .&nbsp; that aircraft has a capacity of 54,000 pounds of fuel. I <br> could count on one hand the number of times that I ever took off with 54,000 pounds in the aircraft. <br> The issue is &#8216;fuel burn for the trip&#8217;. If you are carrying extra fuel (above the required fuel), you are <br> burning extra fuel simply to carry extra fuel. So . . .<b> THE question concerning the B-777 should be . . .<br> &nbsp;how much fuel did the aircraft have at &#8216;block out&#8217;.</b> If we knew that the block out fuel was (say) <br> 220,000 pounds, then Boeing, given the profile that the aircraft flew . . . could tell you within a few <br> miles what the maximum range of the aircraft was . . . but after almost two weeks I have not heard <br> this issue raised by any of the &#8220;experts&#8221;.<br> <br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Now . . . I have come to the conclusion that General McInerney very well may have found the answer<br> &nbsp;. . . if for no other reason in that it can be explained by virtually every aspect of this tragedy. <b>If
the <br> aircraft is in Pakistan, then there will be no wreckage </b>. . . and no debris field. While the subject of <br> &#8216;pilot suicide&#8217; has been discussed, flying 2,700 miles to flame out and crash into the Indian Ocean <br> makes little sense to me. The Egypt Air First Officer in the B-767 didn&#8217;t make it fifty miles off of the <br> US coast! This situation certainly appears to be a well thought out criminal act . . . by somebody. <br> <br> Given the Captains political &#8216;extremism&#8217; and the fact that his marriage was reportedly &#8220;failing&#8221; . . . <br> that his wife and daughter moved out of their home the day before the aircraft went missing . . . this <br> is where I&#8217;d put my chips. No one went to all of this planning and deliberation just to trash the airplane<br> &nbsp;. . . you could do that with absolutely no planning whatsoever. I am also intrigued at the Israeli response.<br> <br> <b>&nbsp;The Jerusalem paper (on line) commented that Israeli officials &#8216;expected to see the aircraft again&#8217;. The <br> Israelis have also publically stated that Iran is involved and have issued NOTAMS indicating that initial <br> contact with Israeli ATC will be moved further from her borders to permit adequate time to &#8216;de-louse&#8217; (my<br> &nbsp;words) any suspicious aircraft. </b><br> <br> Without question, the Israelis have the best HUMINT in that region . . . they don&#8217;t get caught sleeping often.<br> <br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">I<b> am of the opinion that the &#8216;flaw&#8217; in the planning is the fact that the perpetrator did not realize that the <br> SatCom system would continue to &#8220;ping&#8221; even though the systems were &#8216;turned off&#8217; in the cockpit. </b><br> <br> Like our cellphones, even when we turn them off, if the sim chip has any power, the phone is communicating<br> &nbsp;with the nearest cell tower. The only way to &#8220;go dark&#8221; with a cell phone is to remove the battery or allow it to <br> completely discharge. In the case of the B-777, someone would have to find the appropriate circuit breaker(s)<br> &nbsp;. . . either in the cockpit or the E&amp;E compartment (below deck) and pull them to depowering the equipment.</span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Interesting situation with terrifying potential. Pakistan reportedly has over 200 nuclear weapons . . . <br> think about the possibilities . . .<br> <br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Cheers,</span></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt;BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv8428503877MsoNormal"><span style=""><br> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </font> </body> </html>
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On 28-Mar-14 11:59 AM, Richard wrote:

Probably not worth much I'm afraid.
It has all the hallmarks of an email hoax.
If I had $20, Id bet that it will be on snopes by the end of the week.
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On 3/28/2014 9:20 AM, Belleman wrote:

Probably.
But the aircraft is still missing without a trace.
That's gotta be worth a conspiracy theory or two.
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On 29-Mar-14 12:22 AM, Richard wrote:

I'm in Perth, Western Australia. Wreckage is supposedly 2000km SW of here in the ocean. Search planes are flying out of Pearce, our local air force strip.
Not sure I have much confidence in the Chinese searchers. They landed at Perth International Airport by mistake, the air force base they were meant to land at is about 30km north of the city.
There's 3 different crazy conspiracy theories appearing in our local news every day.
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wrote:

Perth? Wave at Phully for me. He's a sandgroper furniture maker right down the street from you in Nannup.

Oops! But, maybe they can't read those upside-down maps of yours. ;)

I don't buy the one where Rothschild offed the other 3 for the patent rights to a nesting program for silicon chip wafers. That might save a multi-billion dollar company a few million a year, but a billionaire wouldn't think about something that small from one of his companies.
I'm sure it will turn out to be something like Pakistan hijacking the plane for 30 members of the engineering department of the electronic warfare company.
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