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Moving a 20' shipping container 20 feet by hand

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:51:22 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Michael Gray quickly quoth:

Or buttered cats?

Asking the mystic Oracle...

Question: If you drop a buttered piece of bread, it will fall on the floor butter side down. If a cat is dropped from a window or some other high and towering place, it will land on its feet.

But if you attach a buttered piece of bread, butter side up to a cat's back and toss them both out the window? Will the cat land on its feet? Or will the butter splat on the ground?

And in response, thus spake the Oracle:

Even if you are too lazy to do the experiment yourself you should be able to deduce the obvious result. The laws of butterology demand that the butter must hit the ground, and the equally strict laws of feline aerodynamics demand that the cat can not smash its furry back.

If the combined construct were to land, nature would have no way to resolve this paradox. Therefore, it simply does not fall.

That's right, you clever mortal, (well, as clever as a mortal can get) you have discovered the secret of *ANTIGRAVITY*! A buttered cat will, when released, quickly move to a height where forces of cat-twisting and butter repulsion are in equilibrium. This equilibrium point can be modified by scraping off some of the butter, or removing some of the cat's limbs (not recommended, as it produces an unfavourably high demand for fresh cats), allowing descent.

Most of the civilized species of the Universe already use this very principle to drive their ships while within a planetary system. The loud humming heard by most sighters of UFOs, is, in fact, the purring of several hundred tabbies.

The one obvious danger is, of course, that if the cats manage to eat the bread off their backs they will instantly plummet. Of course the cats *will* land on their feet, but this generally doesn't do them much good at all, since shortly after they make their graceful landing several tons of red-hot starship and pissed off aliens come crashing down on top of them.

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Larry Jaques
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Good! It should be doable. Ive moved far heavier CNC machines by hand.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

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Gunner

Your "rollers" are solid, aren't they? I'd hate to try it with pipe, unless it had very heavy walls.

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Gunner wrote:

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Al Patrick

However..cats are protected by their Patron Saint..

Our Lady of Perpetual Motion

Least..9 out of 10 times....

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

Reply to
Gunner

Fill with He balloons ? I thought of swinging it in rotation. But a roll is better. Maybe a push or a pull from a wrecker.

A crane would be handy or a big sucker fork lift.

Rats.

Martin

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Martin H. Eastburn

of the woodshed and wind it up then insert the unsuspecting pussy in the basket and release it, by the time the kitty gets out of the basket, there is no possibility of predicting which portion of said cat will hit the floor first. Gerry :-)} London, Canada

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Gerald Miller

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You should at least use hardwood runners or steel bars for the rollers to run on otherwise the rollers will indent into the wood or asphalt and make for some hard pushing.

John

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John

If you are going to push it with a vehicle or winch you just need some flat bars to slide it on. Put a little grease on them and the container will slide easily on them.

John

Reply to
John

Depends on the number of rollers, really. I own two 20' containers, although mine are aluminum, not steel. They weigh only 4,190 lbs. Some

1-1/4" or 1-1/2" schedule 40 pipe would work pretty well, assuming the asphalt wasn't hot. I've moved a grinder that weighed that much and had no problems with the pipe. I'd think a half dozen pieces of pipe under each side would do the trick. If it's hard to move, a little nudge with a small tractor would do the trick.

Harold

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Harold and Susan Vordos

WRONG! WRONG!

Delete cat, butter the bread on BOTH sides!

It tends to spin, though, providing a cooling breeze!

David

Reply to
David R. Birch

I actually tried that. It kept landing on the crust..and balancing there..quivering. COuldnt push it over with a D8 cat. However, it would slide. So cant use it for a ground anchor.

Damnit

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

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Gunner

The steel version is only a little more, something like 5,250# or so.

Reply to
Pete C.

I would think using the Tifor winch would be easier than a prybar. Some 50 mm pipe driven in the ground ought to be enough for a ground anchor since the container is empty and on rollers.

Dan

Reply to
dcaster

If the container weighs about 5000 lbs, with it on rollers I would estimate the force to move it would be 20% of the weight or less. So say 1000 lbs. With a five foot prybar you would have about a 30 to

1 mechanical advantage so the force would be about 35 lbs. Seems doable.

Dan

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dcaster

Hey Stuart, Yeah, it's not a big deal. A twenty footer only weighs four or five thousand pounds. Stick some kind of bar in the corner pocket so you can get a floor jack under it. Use 2" pipe for rollers. Schedule 40 will be fine. Take little bites with your pry bar, and you won't even work up a sweat. Bring along a few chunks of 2x4 and 4x4 just in case.

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Rob Skinner

"Rob Skinner" wrote

Might get lucky and find a couple of trees in the right location. A couple of soft slings, a couple of Maarsdam PowRPullers, and bingo.

Steve

Reply to
SteveB

You guys are overlooking the obvious - any larger vehicle (pickup or SUV) with an automatic transmission, and a few dismounted tires tied to the front bumper as padding. If the shipper is up on pipe rollers it should push and move fairly easily.

Put a large piece of lumber across the front of the shipper to spread the load to the door posts, and avoid bowing the doors.

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Reply to
Bruce L. Bergman

And if done by hand, have wedges to stop a runaway. e.g. no more than x feet - you move wedge and then pry off once again. Better than rolling into the house or car...kid...cat... Martin

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Martin H. Eastburn

there are video's on youtube of some guy moving HIS own 40 footer cargo container by hand, by himself, using tiny hyd jacks and 2 inch pipe for rollers. he's somewhere in the southwest, about 60 yrs old...calls himself 'desertarktist' (not mis-spelled) if I recall correctly

pretty exciting video, actually :-)

other videos there of multiple (modified) containers being used in st pete FL as houses, with bob 'sears craftsman' vila narrating....

toolie, still looking for his OWN cargo container, somewhere in north florida

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dave

The modifications are done by "Tampa Armature".

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Michael A. Terrell

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