NICE containers!

Larry Jaques has brought this to us :

2 people died last weekend in the mountains above Sydney Aus when they took a charcoal fire into their nicely converted shipping container and closed the door for the night.

Not so much. A lot of them are campers and hunters:

"During the past seven years, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission has learned of 83 deaths from carbon monoxide poisoning occurring as a result of people burning charcoal briquettes in an enclosed area.

"Some of the victims were campers who burned the charcoal to keep warm inside a tent or camper. Others were hunters who burned the charcoal inside their trucks, cars, or vans."

From a NIH source, including charcoal burning as well as other CO sources:

"CO deaths were highest during colder months, likely because of increased use of gas-powered furnaces and use of alternative heating and power sources used during power outages, such as portable generators, charcoal briquettes, and propane stoves or grills (1). Similar to previous findings (2), the highest CO death rates tended to be among western (e.g., Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming) and midwestern (e.g., Nebraska and North Dakota) states, likely because of variations in weather and geography and state-by-state variations in prevalence of certain risk behaviors. "

I check my CO detector several times a winter by hanging it over the ash bucket. Even outdoors in a breeze the reading will quickly jump to several hundred parts per million.

Yeah, they're very sensitive. I have one next to my gas furnace, and I can make it scream just by slightly adjusting the flame toward yellow. It's a handy way to get the air/gas ratio right.

I use a Lil Buddy heater in my deer hunting trailer. Propane tank outside, hose come in though the nonfunctional furnace. CO detector next to the heater.

David

Generators in the garage (with power cords bumping the door to the kitchen open) take out a lot every power outage, too. But never all. Generators also get a few complacent powerline workers.

Darwinists, like Democrats, are like c*ck roaches. Even nuclear war wouldn't get rid of all of 'em.

I'll treasure that thought. ;)

Yabbut, between politics and speaking weasels, the forementioned groups are "protected". Makes it harder, huh? Very soon, the speaking weasels will run out of bare ladder to slap extra warning signs onto.

Larry Jaques on Sat, 13 Jun 2015

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As the progressives work hard to make the police ineffectual, who will protect them from the rednecks?

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

Well, let's see...God, the police, the army, and Demonrats with guns are all out, so it appears that -nobody- will be there to do it.

All together now "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!"

There's always been an element of the Left that promotes anarchy, until they succeed and experience it.

Gunner Asch on Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:45:47 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

They have a magical belief system which protects them. Right up until it fails, but by then "Who cares?"

If only the retributive chaos would confine itself to the lefties ...

pyotr

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

You mean like the Bolsheviks in Russia?

It pretty much has, the NKVD efficiently liquidated slight deviations from whatever the current Party Line was.

Estimates of dead Communists run as high as 17,000 to 20,000.

"Soon after, on 3 May 1919, remaining loyal elements of the German army (called the "White Guards of Capitalism" by the communists), with a force of 9,000, and Freikorps (such as the Freikorps Epp and the Marinebrigade Ehrhardt) with a force of about 30,000 men, entered Munich and defeated the communists after bitter street fighting in which over 1,000 supporters of the Munich council government were killed. About 700 men and women were arrested and summarily executed by the victorious Freikorps troops."

"a period of state terrorism in Argentina from roughly 1974 to 1983 (some sources date the beginning to 1969), during which military and security forces and right-wing death squads in the form of the Argentine Anticommunist Alliance (Triple A) hunted down and killed left-wing guerrillas, political dissidents, and anyone believed to be associated with socialism."

"Declassified documents of the Chilean secret police cite an official

"disappeared" between 1975 and mid-1978."

This is what happens when socialist radicals break down the old order so they can build a new one. They open the door for their opponents to do the same.

-G. Zinoviev

The Bolsheviks believed totalitarian authority was a necessary intermediate step, as did Marx.

Mensheviks believed that a peaceful transition was possible.

"The Mensheviks came to argue for predominantly legal methods and trade union work, while the Bolsheviks favoured armed violence."

Anarchists like Bakunin rejected both

I learned all this in Modern European History back in high school.

This is a better example:

" It remains the most widespread revolutionary wave in European history, but within a year, reactionary forces had regained control, and the revolutions collapsed."

"society was cut in two: those who had nothing united in common envy, and those who had anything united in common terror."

"Jim Wilkins" on Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:56:37

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There was a story told, of the Zek (Soviet Slang for prisoner) talking with the guard. (After a few years, you get to know each other.) And the guard asks him what he did, and the Zek says "I did nothing! Nothing I tell you." And the guard then asks, "So what did you get?" And the Zek says "a twenty fiver." The guard replies "You lie! you don't get 25 for nothing, For nothing you get at most a tenner!"

The problem I see coming, are those who are on the margins, deep in the "80% who ask 'what happened?'", who are going to get caught up in the "rectification". E.g., the small business owners in Ferguson. Or Baltimore. Or wherever the Al Sharpton anti-truth race bating spectacle goes next.

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

The hoi polloi will flock to the first Mussolini who promises salvation.

Exactly. One might say that they "promotes anarchy, until they succeed and experience it."

And were, apparently, perfectly happy with it :-)

"Jim Wilkins" on Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:19:16

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As we used to snark, "What color white horse do we want the Hero mounted upon to ride to our rescue?"

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."