Ya better have broad band though...most of em are around 700 megs. Thats why I keep blank cds at my buddies machine shop..he has a T1
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:58:12 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Tove Momerathsson quickly quoth:
I have had no problems with either site using Mozilla 1.0 through
1.0.7, Tove.Weather.com has been hosed for months, though, giving me "too many redirect" errors in all browsers since around September. I'm going through Yahoo now.
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I've got SuSe 9.0, and could set up a dual boot, but don't really see any sense in clobbering half a hard drive with Linux and the other half with windoze. For about a year I had one Linux box and a windoze box, found out where windoze pukes, Linux doesn't have any problems. (500 frame POVray animation, three versions of microsoft couldn't complete it, Linux ran it without a hitch.)
Most of my programs are ported for windoze, Mac, and Linux, there are only a few that I use that aren't. Serif Software Movie Plus is one that isn't, and it's a damn nice program. I haven't looked at everything that's available for Linux yet, there might be something similar that would work just as well. Open Office does just as well for me as the MS, (multiple sclerotic) would, POVray runs under either, the Gimp has pretty good editing features. Best thing about Linux progs are that bugs tend to be fixed quickly when reported.
For now, though, I'm just tickled that Firefox and Thunderbird went in as easily as they did and without any problems. It's great having some control back without trying to find where they hid it.
Rich.
I use OE for my newsreader does thunderbird automatically set this up as well?
Richard wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
I've been running Fedora on 3 boxes here for quite some time, and RH9 before that on the server. Never had a problem with internet access.
The main thing to remember, is that very unlike windoz, which has every damn thing enabled by default, *nix, in the majority of distributions, has very little to nothing enabled by default. If you want it enabled, you have to enable it, including what specific ports you want open. A bit more of a PITA, yes...but inheritly very, very secure.
Funny, I've been using IE and OE for five years now (used Netscape from '96 to '00), and I haven't had *one* virus. That's not much of a "magnet for virii of all kinds", now is it?
Jon
Try browsing around the vicinty. Go here...
(I think)
Yes.
Rich
When Nortons tells me some 30 times in a row that it's just blocked a worm, I'm glad it was there. Biggest problem, or maybe benefit is that most virus are targeted to windoze through their super hiway programs and they don't affect Linux, and don't have the serurity holes if you're using anything else. If Microscrappers would get their act together and write some code that wasn't so full of gateways they might be able to do something, but I doubt it.
Rich
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner
Norton? That is one of the most bloated pieces of trash software out there, and rather innefective at stopping real viruses. Even the free AVG scanner blows it out of the water.
According to your "data", because I don't use Norton and use IE and OE I should be flooded with worms and virii, but as is the case, I am not, nor have I *ever* had a virus or worm infect any of my various boxes over the last five years with IE and OE. How do you explain that, Richard?
Jon
Try going here. Enter your zip code, and bookmark the resulting page:
They'll mail you cd's for free. One cd for install and one cd to run off the cd. I just got the latest version haven't tried it yet. Just got a processor to get the desktop back up and running. Karl
Then you are just lucky. Two days ago I was asked to help out a friend whose computer was misbehaving. It turned out to be a particularly nasty bit of malware which, because it had destroyed part of the OS (W2K Prof), I reckoned was best eradicated by a fresh install of W2K. I saved his user data onto a FAT32 partition, reformatted the C: drive as NTFS, reinstalled W2K and restored the user data. I installed AVG and downloaded ZoneAlarm, then ran the AVG scan and it found two Trojan horses - one was wudpcom.exe. So, even though we hadn't opened any attachments, a few hours after a totally clean install his system was infected by two worms - but AVG got rid of them. As I say, you're just lucky.
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 02:45:25 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "Jon Danniken" quickly quoth:
Verily. I had a problem with NAV a few months ago and lost a couple full days (2-4 hours at a time over a nearly 2 week period) to troubleshooting the damned thing WITH SlymeAntic's help. Grrrrr. I won't be renewing. You like AVG, eh? I'll switch to them in Feb when the NAV expires. I'm very glad I don't have many faxes as WinFaxPro is now a SlymeAntic program which has little real support.
Peter Norton is and was a DOS God. When he moved to supporting the Windows platform, he lost considerable credibility with me. An when he sold out and allowed his name to be put on SlymeAntic products, he lost all further credibility with me whatsoever. RIP, Pete.
Hasn't AVG been catching all of them for you?
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 02:50:51 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "Jon Danniken" quickly quoth:
Thanks, Jon.
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Is this something you could use to clean up a system that has had the OS screwed up so it won't boot, or boots with too much baggage? IOW can you delete and edit Win files after booting to Linux?
Rex
Some (most?) ISP's have virus blocking, which might explain your good luck. I've had virus attacks a couple of times, not nice, but the worst they caused me was to reformat the HD and start over.
I'm not holding Nortons up as the paragon of virus protection, but adding a little minor bloat to the major bloat of windoze or any other MS programs is hardly noticed.
Also, if you're running W98 or 95, you won't have much problem with virus, most are targetted for later "versions" of windoze. If you've "upgraded" to 2K or XP, you now have the problem of windoze not allowing to reinstall your earlier version. (Just put in a version of Linux, tell it to take the whole HD and windoze goes bye-bye.)
Agent for newsgroups, Thunderbird for Email, Firefox browser, life can still be good.
Rich
When's the last time you did a spyware scan, Jon?
Yes, absolutely. I've used Linux LiveCD's to un-trash quite a few windows systems. Not something I could proceduralize, but yes, you can mount the file system and change what needs to be changed, if you know what that is. Usually I just copy the important folders (my documents) to somewhere else on the network and do a reinstall, but depends on the client (and how much time they want to spend for).
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