The Bible is nothing but fables. Same with Qur'an. People are completely nutty under the surface. They are taught to be nutty. You can know an otherwise intelligent person for years and years and then finally discover their outlandish religious and superstitious views.
Taught to be nutty? I try to look at it more kindly, as they are taught to accept on faith certain things, and as they get older, they either stop questioning, or perhaps stop noticing contradicitons between Church teachings and scientific ones. Or perhaps, as some do, look for quasi-scientific explanations for justification of their faith.
And look, it's not just the Fundies, either. THe other day, our babysitter's mother mentioned to my wife that she just found out last week that the story of Adam & Eve and the Garden was just that: a story. She had always beleived in the literal explanation, so much so that she never bothered to try to reconcile in her mind anything she'd heard about evolution, Big Bang, etc. This woman is 45 years old, has a responsible job, and has raised several kids - nice kids, too. Devout Catholic. And until last week, still believing in Adam & Eve. She's devastated, BTW, so much so that she made an appt with her priest to sit down and talk about this.
My point is that even though I've discovered this, I still dont' consider her to be "nutty" or have "outlandish" views. Her kids will still watch my daughter, we'll still exchange Xmas cards.
"I'm eating venison stew," he said gamely.
"christian science"?
No kidding? Yet somehow, up to the moment that they realize their superstition is the same as santa clause or the easter bunny, they devote themselves to destroying other people's lives by constantly forcing their ignorance on the entire society.
Harvey (the one & only "TRUE" GOD)
She must have gone to a backward church.
Most Catholic schools have taught evolution as fact since 1950 when Pope Pius XII pronounced it to not be in conflict with Catholic dogma.
It certainly should have come to her attention in '96 when JPII restated it.
Paul K. Dickman
Yep. The prospect of impending death tends to foster outlandish views.
In news: snipped-for-privacy@qwest.net, Gary informed us:
|| Devout || Catholic. And until last week, still believing in Adam & Eve. She's || devastated, | | No kidding? Yet somehow, up to the moment that they realize their | superstition is the same as santa clause or the easter bunny, they | devote themselves to destroying other people's lives by constantly | forcing their ignorance on the entire society.
Well, I think that you're making a sweeping generalization (are there any other kind?). This woman certainly isn't out to burn books or change the educational programs in her school district. In fact, I can't imagine too many circumstances that would make someone do what you just suggested. That is, unless you mean that when confronted with what someone else beleives is evidence to the contrary, they get defensive.
I believe that most fundies (of whatever stripe) aren't so much "forcing their ignorance" as trying to convert people to the "right" way of thinking. Some of them do it out of hate or disgust (think "Inquisition" or "Crusades" or "Jihaad"), but others do it out of love (e.g., Mother Theresa in India or Father Damien with the leper colonies). It's important to meet them on their terms sometimes, but others will not or can not develop the capacity for understanding. Seamless and unified ring a bell?
"I have to replace my CPU," Gary chipped in.
Your opinion is noted.
Gunner
"The British attitude is to treat society like a game preserve where a certain percentage of the 'antelope' are expected to be eaten by the "lions". Christopher Morton
Exact same thing when they make it law, or force their imaginary friend's will on people who are not ignorant superstitious idiots.
There is a difference in the result? I don't care about their internal justification for their abusive actions.
Poor banquer boy, so confused.
Harvey (the one & only "TRUE" GOD)
Are you suggesting there is another type of church?
Harvey (the one & only "TRUE" GOD)
Divorcees need it to collect alimony.
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 03:43:10 GMT, Santa Cruz Mike vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!:
And where do atheists, agnostics etc stand in all of this? It sort of allows for Muslims
"no establishment of any one religious sect in this Province, in preference to another"
As written it's hardly religious freedom by Law.
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Well, you got me there. However, her's seems to behind the others of that sect.
Paul K. Dickman
WOW! That was really worth the effort.
What? Should David Webb get a divorce to collect more antimony for his lead alloying?
:^)...
Tim
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It is sort of amusing. Their health care plans must now pay for contraceptives (in California).
But you get my point..where is the cooercion?
Mike
Only if he's dyslexic.
On 3 Mar 2004 23:30:20 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Cliff Huprich) brought forth from the murky depths:
Two points, Cliff (& Alice). As to the marriages, I don't care if gays get married. I'm single and happy.
Live and let live.
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:11:59 GMT, Santa Cruz Mike vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!:
Another unfortunate choice...ah what the heck....
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 05:44:46 GMT, "Leo Lichtman" vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!:
Hear here!
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