On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:19:39 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:
If you contrast the condition of the buildings that can
be described as 'single family detached' with those
buildings that cannot be described thusly, you will
see a marked difference in post-quake damage, yes?
I'd say, given the destruction shown in the storefronts
and 'industrial' buildings, the bulk of the SFD's
did extremely well. I agree that most of the buildings
in those photos were probably total writeoffs, SFD's
Some protected their residents better than others though.
I can very easily imagine someone emerging from any
of those SFDs, with scratches and a serious 'case
of WTF' at worst.
From the TV repair shop? Not so much. :)
There were 94 people injured in that quake.
I don't see any citations of deaths. I conjecture that
had the ~5:45 PM shaker happened three hours earlier
there would have been many killed.
That is an amazingly low death rate, considering the
mess the quake made of those buildings.
I suspect quite a few found creative ways out,
confronted with the need. :)
Lots of lives were saved by building code enforcement
I'm thinking about eastern Turkey in 2011 for example.
Three days after their quake they had 461 confirmed dead.
The 1999 Turkey quake that took 20,000 lives is significant
for the same reason.
Replace the faucet. I have found Moen to be total crap (I was going to
say "total shit", but I didn't want to offend anyone <g>). I outfitted
my house with Moen because I thought they were a quality manufacturer;
every unit has failed me, and the "Lifetime Warranty" just means I had
to repair the most inaccessible parts every year for the rest of my
life. Especially bad for the tub and the shower faucets - with the
works hidden behind walls.
I've switched to Delta, Pfister, & Hansgrohe. Not a problem with any
On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 14:40:47 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
Find a friend who lives outside PRC, have him or her buy you two sets, and
ship them in.
And, move out of PRC.
I had a similar problem in NYS, and had some parts reshipped from Florida.
Christopher A. Young
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Confronted with a leaky Moen shower valve, I
discovered that the replacement cartridges are
virtually unobtanium, in a timely fashion.
Explanation from the plumbing guy at the local
Borg is that California's lead legislation means
that these brass parts cannot be sold here.
He also implied that I could (cough) obtain a
valve from their store in Oregon because they
have eight of the little beauties on the shelf.
In retrospect, I should have ordered a replacement
several months ago.
How would you solve this problem?
I'd just buy it online from a non-California source- it will most
likely be cheaper even after shipping and you'll have it quickly. Who
cares about a few ppb of lead in a shower fixture?
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
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On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 20:18:45 -0400, Tom Gardner wrote:
I never thought to do that.
Though I don't have the necessary receipt, my friends at
Hansgrohe (for example) did ship me a part without a receipt
after I explained that it was installed by a contractor.
I am chagrined. Thanks.
Thanks, (in no meaningful order) PrecisionmachinsT, Larry,
Iggy, Speff, J. Clarke and Pyotr.
I later stumbled across a website that revealed the stocking
level for this part at all of my local Borgs.
It agreed (that the store from whence the advice came)
had none to sell but revealed other stores within an easy
drive that each had several pieces on the shelf.
I bought one and a backup. this afternoon.
I do not know why my friend at the local Borg was apparently
unaware of the stock level for this part at competing
Borgs, but I found his story creative and entertaining
nonetheless. The new part is installed and works much
better than the old one did, though the replacement instructions
are a marvel of half-truth, misdirection and obfuscation. :)
Now I suspect that 'Moen' is just a misspelling of 'Moan'.
Their sheet provides instructions for six different kinds
of faucets using 56 little bitty postage-stamp-sized
The entire sheet measures 5-1/2" x 10-3/4"!
They show the knob support coming straight off the valve
It doesn't do that, for the shower mixer type.
Any attempt to make it do that will result in a little
war of wills. Instead, that part pivots off the end
of the stem quick and easy in about half a second and
it installs with the same kind of motion, snickety-snack.
I would be at a total loss in showing that motion
in a tiny cartoon, however.
They show installation of the cartridge to be at 90
degrees rotation in relation to the way the old
cartridge came out. If you follow that particular
instruction, you will get the tiniest trickle on
reassembly because the water inlets are not facing the
features in the cast brass body. (DAMHIKT!) :)
There's also a little spacer made of *transparent* plastic
(not shown in instructions) between the end of the valve
stem and the inside of the knob support. It is nearly
invisible as it chameleons against any surface it should
happen to fall upon.
If you forget to install that little puppy, the valve
will never completely close; It will cause the valve to
drip with more enthusiasm than it did when you decided
it was leaking too much. :)
But I digress.
I'll probably use my little lathe to make a slightly
longer spacer this afternoon.
--Winston <--There! Now I feel better.
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