RogerN -- robot -- ammo -- automatic profits

Our Great Lakes Navy base has several triwalls of 9mm brass casings, supposedly once fired.
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With ammo prices still high, it might make sense to buy those casings, gunpowder, etc, and use a robot to make ammunition and sell it. Certainly I would not want to be involved, due to hassles and liability and lack of subject matter knowledge, but I thought that RogerN may be interested.
Set up a robot to reload the ammo and enjoy the profits.
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My understanding is that O'bum-a ordered them (and all military spent brass) shredded and sold as scrap brass (presumably to Al-Q or the Chinese)
Did that change?
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On 2013-08-10, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

They are being sold right now as surplus. Quite contrary to what you said. These are the surplus govt auctions.
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No, not "as I said", Ig. I asked, "Did that change?" Apparently so. The auction states "mutilation not required". It was for some long while.
At one point, the WH unilaterally declared that getting reloadable brass off the streets would reduce the inner-city crime rate (somehow????).
I guess they gave up on that silly idea. You ain't gonna stop those thugs from shooting one-another, and I'll lay good bets they don't reload, either.
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On 2013-08-10, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

Makes sense, for the government, to get 3x scrap value for that brass.
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On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:15:18 -0500, Ignoramus30868

There was a change a couple years ago, allowing casings etc to be sold without shredding, for reloading.
It was in the conservative news quite a bit. NOTHING mentioned on the MSN
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On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:15:18 -0500, Ignoramus30868

I wonder why the wide spread in price? The first lot seems to be valued at $3.16 a pound and the other two at $1.04, all described the same.
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On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:55:36 -0500, Ignoramus30868

How long would it take to reload all those cases? (Roughly half a million.) I'm amazed at the $13.5k bid!
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Of course, depends on the equipment. This would still be relative small volume compared to the pros. You could buy and automate a dillon 1050 and easily run 10K a day, no sweat. Finish in two months.
My son BEGGED ME to buy a mixed load of 308 and 223 brass last fall from one of these government liquidations. It was selling for 1/4 of the price these auctions get today. Then buy up gov surplus bullets and powder and go to town. He was right, would have made a killing.
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Karl, did you try to "run the numbers", how much it would cost to sort and reload the brass, vs. how much you can get for selling reloads?
If I was to buy those once fired cartridges, it would be for selling them online as is, by flat rate box.
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I did NOT foresee the moron in chief causing mass hysteria in the gun market. last year large lots (ten pallets +) were selling for basically scrap brass price. You could get double that by selling the brass in small lots. A fair ROI, but I thought it would take years to sell it all. Plus, I didn't have 10 -15 K dollars to leave sit in this.
"The Kid" wanted to also sell reloads, WAY more investment here but better ROI IF you could sell them. At least here you could buy the powder, bullets and primers as you went. Many folks were leary of home reloaded ammo prior to last december so I didn't think much of this either.
We would have MADE A KILLING. Could a, should a, would a.
My worry now is we're still on a bubble. prices have collapsed on AR15s, ammo may follow. Right now, I'm buying up AR15 and other weapon parts and will have it ready to dump next time our moron in chief (likely Hillary next time) causes a scare.
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For five years, the gun lobby has been telling you that Obama is going to knock on your door and take away your guns....

And for five years, the firearms industry has enjoyed record profits....

How does it feel be played for a sucker?
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:12:13 -0500, Karl Townsend

It's not the politicians you want to watch, Karl. It's the gun organizations. They're the ones who precipitate the scares.
As you've probably noticed, the federal-level scares came to naught. They're pure propaganda by GOA, NRA, etc., fueled by gun manufacturers. I haven't seen any evidence that ammo manufacturers have been involved -- I've talked with a Remington ammo plant manager and a company exec, without detecting any hint they were involved -- but the gun makers definitely were.
At the state level, it's all pretty predictable. In the purple and blue states, a mass killing, particularly of children, is going to precipitate some political saber-rattling, and, in a few cases, new legislation.
But look at the federal political situation and get real. It's a rumor-inspired run on guns, and a lot of people who paid good money are going to get burned.
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On 8/10/2013 1:30 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:

No, it's the bore brush industry driving everything!
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You only wish. <g>
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Tom Gardner wrote:

Most brushes are quite boring. :)
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Future is very hard to foresee. No one could know that a person, good only for fertilizer, could kill 20+ kids and cause a gun control hysteria.
What is easy to foresee, however, is that capitalism works as expected, and an artificial "ammunition shortage" will in time be self corrected. So, I will personally avoid buying that brass. But, I think, someone who could realistically reload and sell it quickly, could potentially make money.
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On Friday, August 9, 2013 4:55:36 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus30868 wrote:

I am not sure that a roboit arm would eb the most efficient or cost effecti ve way to automate reloading. Look at a progressive shot shell loader like some of the higher end MEC loaders for ideas. A purpose built machine to measure, sort, size, trim, fill and press brass might be cheaper to build a nd much more capable.
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