The "not invented here" syndrome

OmniTurn cnc lathes are making parts all over the world on 6mhz and 640k of memory

Gunner

"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her t*ts" John Griffin

Ni fancy GUI though - that, to a large extent, is what takes the power and slows everything down.

I got my diploma 20 years ago - was a "hobbyist" for several years before starting my training. Worked in product development for 5 years with the largest distributor/reseller of CD Rom technology in Canada at the time. Oh the fun of trying to get a CD Rom running on non-dos systems!!!! And sharing CD libraries on the Unix based Banyan Vines system, or Novell. Microsoft CRD Rom extensions made connecting to Microsoft OS childs play. I always thought anything that took as much RAM, and ran as slow as a Mac had to have something wrong. Then along came Windoze 1!!!!!!! By the time Windows 3.1 came along I was reluctantly dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Windows World. Built in networking (WFWG)? Man, did THAT simplify things!!!!!!!! Native TCP/IP support? It was just like West Virginia - "Almost Heaven". Then along came OS2 - it was supposed to be an alternative - what a disaster. Microsoft washed its hands of the project and IBM thrashed that dead horse for another few years. Things just got better from there on with MS products. And just about ANY program written for DOS (any version) or Windows (Up to 95) would run on any operating system version equal or higher.(This is assuming the (non MS) programmer didn't cheat, making use of "undocumented calls" or writing directly to hardware) Need to run an old DOS program on a WinXP, Win2000, or Win2003 system? Microsoft Virtual PC, run under the current OS, can run whatever OS you need, with full device support.

Ever run Word (in)Perfect 4 on Windows? All of a sudden it would crash and nothing would get it back? Too many temp files, and it corrupted itself (crapped it's drawers).There was a hidden file (forget what it is now - long time back) that you had to remove and reinstall to get it back - one example of a company refusing to "play by the rules". Where is Word Perfect now? It virtually bankrupted Novell, who sold it off to the Kanata Wonderboy at Corel. Just about sunk him too. There was a day when Word Perfect and Wordstar(haven't seen that one in a long time) were the dominent players.

I could go on forever - but I'll shut up now.

Try that with any other manufacturer's software.

No. I realize the Intel Mac still runs the Unix based OSX. Just said it because SOME people think Intel is the second horse of the acopolyps, after Microsoft. And from what I'm told, the new Intell Mac CAN run windows.

This is in a university setting - and I suspect the problems are possibly more application related than OS, but the accronym has been around for many years - and in this case it fits. IIRC the problems occur most often just after an OS (operating system) upgrade, but I don't get involved, so can't say for sure. Just know the wife comes home and says "the system was down for an hour again today" I've only played with a Mac a few times - have an Imac sitting on the floor in the corner that I played around with for a couple hours before Christmas - can't seem to GIVE the darn thing away because it is running OS9X, and upgrading to 10 is prohibitively expensive, and the 9 system can't talk with the 10 system machines that all the teachers around here are using. If it was an OS10X machine, it would be gone in a thrice.

Gunner wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Try reading "Coventry" by RAH.

Let me know how much you want for it, I'm probably buying. Kid wants one.

Not true.

I'll be happy to take it off your hands. Please send specs, give me an idea what you want for it, and for shipping.

Indeed. Been there, done that.

Gunner

"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her t*ts" John Griffin

Where are you located? I want $75 for it - It's in Waterloo Ontario.

Oh - it's the blueberry integrated unit with tray loading CD - Mac Ally keyboard and apple mouse. No floppy - no OS disks. Perfect working and cosmetic condition.

I'm in Wisconsin, USA. My email is real, I can send you my snailmail address. I'll pay shipping. Please specify flavor of dollars as well.

Ah, _that_ generation iMac. OK it's not so much people don't want it because it's running OS9 and it's expensive to upgrade to OSX, it's that it's just not _capable of_ running OSX well if at all. So, nevermind, now that I have a spec I'll have to pass. Way too far to ship a CRT worth of weight. If we were local, yeah, it'd be fine for the basement but I'm guessing that sucker would cost more to ship than to buy.

But a good OS is seldom crashed by a failures in an application running under the OS.

I know almost zlch about comps but I want t know why every time I turn on my XP box and get online thru peoplepc I get this error Bartshell error unable to proceed. Or something to that effect

Why do you say they overlook it, when you know that is irrelevant to the question of how non-criminals should conduct themselves?

Do you seriously suggest that we look to murders set our standards?

I think we're seeing here another example of the fact that "justice" is nothing more than "revenge" that's conducted by a society. Harold's implication that the criminal should suffer is one that most people would agree with, on first reaction, if not necessarily one that they would state for public consumption.

It's all about making them suffer at least as much as the victim -- preferably somewhat more, and physically, if possible, but at least mentally. It's as human as anything we do.

Actually, Ed, I don't mean it that way at all. In my mind, it's a non-issue. Why would we, as a society, worry about the feelings of criminal that has had no regard for society? How much was this individual concerned about the pain and suffering he inflicted on the victim? If it comes to the death penalty, if one suffers in the process, regardless of the amount, it isn't really relevant, and should not be a consideration in carrying out the execution. When a person commits a crime punishable by the death penalty, it is they that have given up their rights------they are not taken from them. To blame society for stopping such an individual is nothing short of insanity, and an open initiation for other deranged people to behave in kind. The lesson that society needs to learn is that there is a price to pay for being a criminal, never a reward. If it gets uncomfortable, so be it.

Harold

Big deal! Just breathing does that.

On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 06:36:17 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Harold and Susan Vordos" quickly quoth:

What's "cruel and unusual punishment" to a serial rapist/murderer who has just vivisected half a dozen girls? Jails are way too comfortable. Viva Joe Arpaio and Maricopa County tent jails! Recidivism rates there are waaaaaaaaay down. Imagine that!

I agree with both you and Ed, Harold, and I add one more tidbit.

When you're being attacked by some criminal who wants to do you harm, what is the mindset you want?

A) To sit back and allow it to happen without a fight. or B) To go into protection mode and do whatever it is that needs doing, including going into his mindset and killing him before he can kill you?

I'd venture to say that most sane people would choose the latter, no matter how gentle they were in life otherwise. For those who didn't, R.I.P. They had their chance and blew it.