Update on the Containerized shop

Well at this point the paint phase is done and construction and modification begins

i TOTALLY struck out at finding a metal door and frame. the only metal framed doors i found were GLASS doors liek the entrance to a lawyers office or boutique.... Not appropriate for my application

Next I'm calling the window and door manufacturers looking for miscuts or refused orders. If they had to take back a door its of limited usefulness to them and since i can cut my opening to fit its very useful to me

Reply to
Brent
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miscuts

As you can slice holes in containers, can you not also fabricate a door frame from angle, and a door from channel and sheet?

AWEM

Reply to
Andrew Mawson

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:59:39 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Brent quickly quoth:

How about a rollup metal door? I don't recall seeing what size you wanted. From $130 + (s/h) on eBay.

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don't know how good the insulation is, foil bubble. (Janus (another vendor's) models are a whopping R-4! ;)

Reply to
Larry Jaques

How does your local municipality regard containers as workshops ?

Containers are prohibited here in a residential area, even if nicely painted and fitted with a gable roof. A stupid attitude.

I had to remove mine once all my furniture & tools were removed from it. Council was threatening to fine me for each day after a removal deadline. It is now at my son's house being loaded with tools and car parts ready for his move. No problem for him as his land is zoned semi-rural and developers have made an offer for it. I was going to remove it anyway as it was in an inconvenient position in my garden and extremely difficult to rotate 90 degrees to where I wanted it. Also not suitable for woodworking as it is too narrow to handle 8 x 4 sheets of ply on the table saw. My new shed is supposedly being erected tomorrow, 28' x 15' for metalworking and the old shed, 24' x 13' is woodworking only. First priority for new shed is shelving, I have 3 pallet racks to assemble and shelves and boxes to remove from the spare bedroom.

Reply to
Alan

I have several local places that deal in Mobile home and surplus construction materials. I bought two new fire rated steel doors a few years ago for $20 each. They were rejected on the jobsite because of scratches that were easy to fix h a torch. They had a metal cover tack welded over the normal edge where the lock set went, to use them as a set of double doors. It took about five minutes to peel them off. A little grinding and fresh paint, and they looked brand new. One is in use on my shop building, and the other will go on the garage.

Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

Issue resolved I'm getting a reject off a commercial door manufacturer here

new 20 gauge steel and insulated but rejected from an earlier job

Now for windows

Reply to
Brent

My container falls through the cracks of zoning ALTHOUGH my city is a bit of a unique mess that way.

there are 17 different zoning bylaws in force within my overall city due to a forced amalgamation. Ine one secdton of town (Called Kanata) they have such crazy and draconinan bylaws that the were controlling the color you point your house the erection of a clothesline and all sorts of things like that. Basically the town council was the HOA for that municipality. If you didnt like it you moved a few miles away form that small pocket of prudes. (The overwheming majority of the city were IT type people who wanted a perfect little suburbia) those who disagreed with that picture lived elsewhere in nearby locations.

Where i am (Goulbourn) was a much more rural area. and the laws and regulations reflect that. my "town" has just recently been "upgraded" to be considered a suburb in the last 5 years form being a rural area

But the container is not plumbed into the house and will be on camlocks to house hydro.

its does not fit their definition of a structure so its not a structure. =) i beleive that the foundation is where the definition lies

I then checked the "Property Standards" Bylaws. Property standards = eyesore in government speak.

The container itself is not prohibited there but there are rules about appropriate coatings for wood and metal structures. Basically It arrived Graffitied and rusty and both of those are disallowed (And have since been rectified)

The container s however more sturdy and better looking than the shed it replaced and in the exact same spot. Neighbours have been happier to see the clean white structure than the rotting old shed.

I'm safe to have a container and they are frequently used for on site tool storage by construction companies (Even in residential areas when the size of job is appropriate for it) And Containers are rented for house moves here as well

In theory where my old shed was and where this container is are in violation of "setback" regulations so if i were to put it on a foundation and put plumbing in i would need a zoning variance. But 1 I dont want a zoning variance and 2 i WANT and intend to move this shop. I will not be staying in the house i live in forever so i want a mobile workshop and not a Structure. and that it is not built but it is parked if it comes down to that. I can "park" on the setback

Hope that makes sense

Brent Philion Ottawa Canada

Reply to
Brent

We used th' cut out section for th' *sheet*.

Snarl

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snarl

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I don't know how good the insulation is, foil bubble.

the "door" i need is for human access only and should be as insulated as possible to prevent heat loss through it if i need something big loaded or unloaded i'll open the barn doors

Reply to
Brent

We're still waiting for pictures / link to your site...

Reply to
Pete C.

I visited second son in a townhouse complex in Kanata, Christmas 1993

- Worst damned shack town I was ever in. Cockroaches big enough to ride. Gerry :-)} London, Canada

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Gerald Miller

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> I don't know how good the insulation is, foil bubble.

You could consider the "barn doors" on the container as the emergency exit IF you rig up an inside release of some sort. You would have to remove the vertical dog shafts and install a conventional lever-set door latch & deadbolt set on the right door. Leave the dogs on the left door & padlock them, they are much more effective than simple cane bolts.

If you want to spend a bit or scrounge a bit, you could even put a set of commercial exit door Push To Open "crash bar" latches on both ends. Highly recommended if you will be using flammable solvents inside, and shaving another precious second or two off your exit speed sounds like a really good idea...

Store the dog bars - if you ever want to move the container any distance they will need to be reinstalled and operative, otherwise you can rack (twist) the whole container by uneven weight distribution between the four corners during loading or unloading operations.

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Bruce L. Bergman

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