Using a Sacrificial anode on a car to suppress or at least help prevent rusting

It works. If you make a boat out of your car. :-)

Nick

I may be wrong, but I'm of the opinion that unless you can achieve an electrical circuit between the sacrificial anode and body and frame work of the car and the water it holds, it won't work. The mere presence of a sacrificial element isn't enough. The navy uses a similar technique whereby a ship is one pole, the ocean the other. Same with rebar and structural steel in highway overpasses.

Harold

If I'm not mistaken, I remember seeing such devices advertized years ago in some mags. I think even one of my acquaintences even had one, No idea if it worked. ...lew...

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:46:45 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Lew Hartswick quickly quoth:

Lots of people swear by them and there are lots on the market.

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Hello Brent:

You need more than 'the elements' striking the sacrificial anode. A sacrificial anode is effective on a ship or an underground tank where the *metal* *being* *protected* is in direct contact with the

Yeah, it kinda means that you have to drive the car under water for the anode to be effective...

An alternative is to coat the metal entirely with the anode material, as in galvanized steel.

Regards -- Terry

IIRC glvanizing steel is done for just that reason. (At least the name makes it sound that way.)

I read somewhere that even if the galvanizing is scratched through in one location the presence of the zinc adjacent to the scratch means that when the area gets wet the adjacent zinc takes the galvanic corrosion hit and "saves" the exposed steel.

Jeff

What about those electric kits that are mounted on cars and are supposed to prevent corrosion. I am not sure how they could possibly work, in the absense of the electrolyte envelopig the car (like on boats), but maybe I am missing something.

In order to work, the sacrifical anode must be in contact with the same liquid that is doing the corroding. That's easy in water heaters and boats, not so easy in an auto which can have isolated pockets of trapped corrosive liquid.

About the best defense is frequent washing (including "bottom blast") during salt season. My Ford Contours are 12 years old, have operated all of that time in the salty Minneapolis metro area, are completely rust free thus far. They get a trip thru the carwash after every snow, once the roads are again reasonably clear and dry.

VWs have been double galvanized since at least the late 80's, IIRC, as are most current cars. The problems with your concept is that you don't have total immersion in salt water, just splashes here and there. So you need a whole lot of zinc blocks, not just one or two, which is effectively what you have with the galvanizing. It won't prevent corrosion entirely, but will slow it down. Best thing is a hot freshwater rinse after exposure.

Stan

That's not a sacrificial anode - it's an electronic device to counter the electrolitic action. It's useless under most conditions. Daughter's Neon has one and it's rusting like all Neons.

Move to California

Bud

Exactly.

My 1989 Toyota gets washed at least once a year, and there's plenty of salt used around St. Louis. I had "the Protector" put on it for a couple hundred $ when I bought it, although the dealer made a big fuss that I was throwing MY money away, as that kind of stuff is no longer needed. There are a few rusty undercarriage pieces, but the body is totally free of any rust. The car is roughly 18 years old, driven 250+ days a year, and has 163,000 miles on it. I'm sure hot-dip galvanizing is helpful, and the new paints adhere better than the traditional finishes from the 1950's, but it seems to me that the internal coating is still the best thing you can do for long life.

Jon

Jon, could you elaborate on that Protector, what is it, how it is applied, how it works etc.

During the warmer (non snowy) months, whenever I change oil in my car, I re-paint any part of the undercarriage that shows a rock chip.

One of the issues I see with many car chassis is that the various holes trap dirt and moisture on the other side of the metal where you can't easily inspect it.

Wes

Rather than give myself carpal tunnel syndrome again heres a link to a post addressing this issue that I made a while back on anudder group-

Rust & galvanic corrosion are two seperate things, what works for one won't necessarily work for the other. :(

H.

Brent wrote:

Nick Mueller wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@yadro.de:

How about an Amphicar???

Nice idea - Won't always work if you are close to the beach.

And there are mountainous areas in the state where they use a bit of salt - though AFAIK they try to use sand as much as possible.

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Its a good idea for other reasons. like the availability of machine tools. compared to this corner of the world I'd have likely already picked up Gunners Clausing 8540 for example at least.

Thats a great reply explaining it. So essentially deal with paint chips and rust spots fast and its not an issue but tossing in zinc or mg just wont cut it as an effective means of preventing corrosion thanks.

Thanks to all for the posts i'm glad it generated some discussion and I came away understanding better

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