One thing about rcm and s.e.j.w. is the usual absence of the pointless no-budge arguements about off-topic b.s. Try 15min in some group like rec.photo.eqt.35mm to see the pointless nikon vs. canon or kodak vs. fuji arguements. It is always take no prisoners over the stupidest stuff. Never really see that here. The Lincoln people give the Miller people their due and likewise the Hobart and on and on. That civility is a welcome event in an America that is increasingly closed minded on the right and on the left. I read these groups to enjoy a little community about a common interest and learn from others.
Please take the OT to a group that wants to see your opinions and throw down your gauntlet there. Let's get back to metalworking around here. I can tell I don't agree w/ about 60% of what 50% of the posters here think, but I really like reading what you think about metalworking. Flipping down my hood and getting back to work here, John