Why hasn't the NRA stepped up and paid the hospital bills of the Colorado shooting victums?

Jul 26, 2012 124 Replies

As an NRA Instructor, we are not allowed to use the term "weapon". We use "Firearm", "Sidearm", "Rifle", "Pistol", etc. "Weapon" has a negative connotation and most of our instruction is geared to sport shooters, just a small portion of our teaching is CCW. There are thousands of NRA sport shooting events every year and the NRA's prime directive is education in safety and these events.

The only thing that I add to the program is by insisting that my students have a gun safe. I also strongly recommend continuing education, training and LOTS of regular practice. My CCW students are encouraged to join IDPA. We have a chapter at our local club. Between teaching, training and programs, I shoot over 1k/mo. Thank goodness I have an endless supply of range lead but always looking for Linotype and wheel weights, range lead tends to be too soft and needs alloy adjustment. There are just too many .22s and jacketed slugs in the mix.

Have you heard of incidents where cops discharge huge numbers of rounds with only a small percentage of hits? It happens all the time! I'm in the process of getting certified to teach police and military. I have cop friend that will sponsor me and have trained with him and others in his department for over a year. Lots of cops don't care much about shooting other than to pass their quals. The NRA has great programs for them.

More like the Javelin catcher!

I've heard both "clip" and "mag" from experienced users. It's easier to pick up a habit than to drop it, and beginners copy what they first heard. In the military they may call all ground transportation "vehicle" and anything that flies an "aircraft", including helicopters. We discussed that a few years ago in rec.aviation.military.

How careful are we to distinguish between motors and engines? There IS a difference.

jsw

"Suppressive Fire".

This shows the caualty rate per whole day when lines of standing soldiers blasted away at each other at close range:

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In the American Civil War many of the weapons were as or more accurate than modern pistols.

"Michael A. Terrell" on Mon, 30 Jul 2012

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I'll give it a shot.

"Jim Wilkins" on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:20:57

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What I want is the over head shot. Even if I am "flying" down to the limits of resolution - or even past it (when things get completely pixilated)! - that is what I want. The overhead shot. Not the view from the "nearest" road - which may be blocks or miles away - but right "here". What is "silly" (when it is not infuriating), is the attempts to give me a "street level view" where there is no such view available. In other words, now I'm standing on an aerial photograph.

The Snohomish (WA!) county assessor does it "right":

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(Should be two views of a RR overpass, and a white and red truck.)

Nope. Because those tin-foil hats are part of the plot to gain control over foolish people.

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tschus pyotr

They want you to call it a weapon, because that's its job in the military. It isn't for collecting, or sport shooting. It's part of the conditioning required to prepare you for battle, and they are trying to break the link between military & civilian firearms.

He liked that position. He caught the shot puts with his thick skul.

It's commonly called a "clip" because it "clips" into place...

The term "magazine" in and of itself does not necessarily imply = something that can be quickly separated from the rifle for = reloading...for instance, instead of having a clip; pump shotguns, lever = action and most bolt action-type rifles generally will have a tubular = type magazine which, for all practical purposes; is permanently = attached..

And FWIW, when *I* was in the military, range officers used the term = "clip" almost exclusively.

almost exclusively.

Many shooters still do. From Wikipedia: "Due to popular usage of the term clip interchangeably with magazine it now has the same meaning and is defined as such" It's hilariously stupid of Gardner to think that using the term is some great tell. Especially considering that he listened to Bush say nookewler for years and it didn't bother him. Hell I bet he says it that way as well. The guy writes like an 10 year old but he's convinced he has this one great pearl of wisdom to offer.

almost exclusively.

Prove it, blow-hard, know-nothing liar. You were NEVER in THIS country's military and you know nothing about firearms.

Yup...

The other thing is, my time is too valuable to waste by responding to mindless trolls and providing them with a detailed explanation about the implications of letting the barrel get too warm...

almost exclusively.

Oh LOOKIE...libtard cheese-check boy sticks up for his lover, how cute! Is that the best insult you can feebly cast? You should have smoked less drugs in grade school before you were expelled and TRIED to be a productive member of society but sadly, you became a leach on that same society. Get somebody to help you compose a grown-up insult.

It IS a tell! You and your lover pretend to know things to impress people. I especially like:

Makes me want to run right out and get me an "assult" rifle" so I can be cool like you and your buddy! I sure would LOVE to take that challenge but I'm a pacifist, unlike you and your ilk.

You and your lover NEVER post anything on-topic that isn't complete bullshit. Why do you post here? Nobody believes your spew nor does anybody respect a single thing you write.

OBTW you are both now in the bozo-bin so don't bother to respond. Besides, your mommy shouldn't let you use her computer anyway. Go back on the porch, puppy.

Thanks, very interesting. It seems that as time went by and firearms improved as well as the quantity of ammunition available, the "spray-n-pray" method became more prevalent.

"fixed wing" vs "rotary wing" aircraft....

They bounced off and made a hollow ringing sound.

That's because the outer layer is silly putty.

I used "Don't call me Sergeant, my parents were married!"

technomaNge

The sergeant was telling me not to put the box magazine in a .22 at the time that he called it a clip, so, no, it was not a stripper clip. The simple fact is that real experts are often far less pedantic about nomenclature than online wannabees.

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