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I had thought of a better one buy it's slipped my mind at the moment

-- Regards,

John Stevenson Nottingham, England.

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Oh don't exagerate, I've never touted for business here and won't do so, if for no other reason than the chances of people being in my area is very slim 8-). But when someone makes statements that are patently wrong, about something that I happen to have a professional knowledge of, do you expect me to remain silent? Isn't this group about sharing knowledge?.

So I need you to grant me the RIGHT to my own view?, oh no I don't! In my book chopping a cross slide lead screw in half and joining a new bit to it is a bodge, the part was not made in two. If I couldn't get a spare I would have had to bodge it myself and would still have called it a bodge, I've been forced into plenty of them in my time and wouldn't be the slightest bit offended if someone else called them that. That's my view and yours differs, we BOTH have the right to our views.

And I respect your right to not agree, why can't you do the same?

Greg

I'm using a chain saw at the moment to cut the roots of a tree to make access easier to the foundry - any chips needed for shoulders or is there a big enough one already somewhere ?

AWEM

Oh I think there are plenty around here already 8-)

Greg

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Mark,

Does the fact that I live in central Scotland make a difference? :-)

Thanks for the offer Mark but I have a few feelers out and there may be one coming my way in the next month or so. I don't have the details yet apart from it's not had much use.We will see.

Where are you from anyway?

Archie

No, it just means that you get to drive for 20 hours, with a brief break and some heavy lifting in the middle

All comes to he who waits.. in the end.

Rugby, at the junction of the M1 and M6 motorways, a gentle 8 hours from Edinburgh.

As I said, I'd rather get it sorted to my satisfaction before passing it on to someone else anyway, I wouldn't want its next owner to have the same opinion of me that I have for its previous owner.

Regards Mark Rand RTFM

Oh I do accept you have a right to your own view. I was interested in how you define a bodge of this magnitude. Is a dodge when you do it at home? If so what's it called when it's done at the factory.

Ahha silly me just realised the answer to my own question.

It's a Designer Bodge.

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John Stevenson Nottingham, England.

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Only available as an option package and you need to pay an additional

10% + VAT of course for that sir!! If we know the name of the person who designed the Bodge and he is an internationally renowned Bodger then I'm afraid it wil lbe completely out of sirs pocket!!!

Sorry just couldn't resist

Regards Keith

If you saw the way the 2-piece cross-slide screw, with its skinny sliding joint, is arranged on a CVA toolroom lathe, a quality bit of kit, I don't think you would worry any more about a properly made joint in a Boxford screw.

I've spent the past week cutting out & welding bits into a 110-year old wrought iron boat. What I do, as with an awful lot of repair work, is a compromise between a 'perfect' job and what the customer can afford or can be economically justified. The first aim is to do a job which will last safely until the next time the boat comes out of the water (& hopefully the customer has saved up a few quid more). The next aim is to make it look presentable. The third aim is to do the work as thoroughly as possible within the available budget so that it doesn't have to be re-done in five years' time. None of this implies bodging. In fact, some of what I've been doing has been putting right other people's bodges from the past ( though they may not have seen their work as 'bodgeing' when they did it ). There's nothing wrong in principle with repairing or reclaiming parts, in fact it can be a very 'green' thing to do!

Cheers Tim

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The idea of a manager 8-)

Greg

Yes there is that, it can be considered green to re-use parts. I'm in the market for an old Landi at the moment so may end up bodging a fair few bits in the near future 8-)

Greg

In this case no need, they were well bodged at the factory.

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John Stevenson Nottingham, England.

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Yes that's the impression I'm getting from the magazines I've read, I'm new to them but fortunately have friends with some experience to guide me.

Greg

I wouldn't get too excited Keith - fifteen grand doesn't buy much. Plastics, MDF and textiles are the materials of choice for laser cutting in schools.

If your local comp. has Technology as it's specialism odds are it will have a laser. I am almost sure they will have had some kind of out reach agreement written into their bid to get Tech. College status.

John

SNIP Greg wrote: They're becoming so common place because

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Greg

Right in one part and wrong in the other. Yes lots of schools were equipped with Boxfords - there were five in my faculty as well as the Harrisons (wood and metal). I got rid of four because we needed the floor space for such things as network computers and associated printers, lockers (yes, workshops are now form rooms in many schools) registration/admin. computer, CNC router/miller/lathe/, router table, dust extraction, smart board, projector etc etc etc.

Schools are not getting rid of lathes because they aren't 'allowed such things'

John

John thanks, pity as I was dreaming up all sorts of ideas for their use. All involved great lumps of steel of course!! Glad to hear that schools are still able to use such tools as lathes etc but fully understand from my recent employment history where I was involved with the selection of apprentices (or lack of apprentices more like), that they might well have a vastly reduced need to introduce these skills to a large number of pupils. If industry isn't taking the trainees on, you can hardly blame the schools for reducing the capacity of their facilities. In the area I was involved the drive was for less "apprenticeships" and more narrowly trained employees who were trained and certified (in house) capable of doing very specific tasks. Cheaper to train, less incentive for people to move to different employers and lower wages. Cynical and morally questionable in my opinion, but if the bean counters are pulling the strings the "bottom line" always wins. Who said the world had to be fair.

Best regards

Keith

I'm only repeating what I've been told, when I bought my ex-school lathe the seller was a teacher and told me they had been forced to close their workshops completely due to health and safety and liability concerns, all the machines were to be scrapped so the staff split them between themselves, he also had the pillar drills but I was pipped to the post 8-(. I've had the same confirmed by friends who say their kids get absolutely no practical teaching in secondary schools any more, even in the science classes the teachers themselves aren't allowed to demonstrate any potentially dangerous experiments like the old sodium in water for example.

Maybe it's different in other areas?, but the steady stream of ex-school machinery appearing for sale is a fact.

Greg

Ther probably is variation in policy between different education authorities, some public bodies are excessively paranoid about legal liabilities, not altogether surprising when there are solicitors & businesses around the country trying to drum up business by encouraging people to claim for every last little scrape. As John says, change in demand for the 'finished product' (school leavers) must have a large bearing on these decisions.

Cheers Tim

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