Emergency off switch

The front panel on/off pushbutton switches on the front of my lathe
don't fall to hand easily, and while I can usually get the clutch in
if things get tense, I would like to add a very visible and easy to
reach emergency-off push button switch. I had in mind a standard red
mushroom switch (a simple low-voltage push-to-break is all that's
needed with my inverter), but finding a supplier at a sensible price
is proving hard. The usual supects want £30 or more (plus VAT,
carriage etc).
Does anyone know of a source for a sensibly-priced switch, or have
something suitable lurking in a corner of their workshop?
TIA
Mike
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Mike Crossfield
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Maplin do an emergency stop switch for a tenner - part code KE69A.
-- Wally
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Wally
Mike, If you don't mind a S/H one in it's own box and will return postage I'll dig one out
-- Regards,
John Stevenson Nottingham, England.
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John Stevenson
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Maplin have one for a tenner, part no KE69A
Charles
Reply to
Charles Ping
Thanks Wally
That splendid chap John Stevenson has already offered me a suitable switch, but I'll bear Maplin in mind if I ever need another.
Mike
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Mike Crossfield
|Does anyone know of a source for a sensibly-priced switch, or have |something suitable lurking in a corner of their workshop? | |
What about a rope type stop switch? These stretch across an area and can be operated from anywhere along their length, you just touch the rope and it stops. Any good electrical control supplier should have these quite cheaply.
Reply to
Harry Bloomfield
Couldn't supply one f.o.c to a certain troll from Chippenham to put in series with his mouth per chance?
Reply to
A Veteran Has Lung
Sorry not suitable as these are only rated at 16A per phase. For a trap such as his, 64A would be a minimum rating. -- Regards,
John Stevenson Nottingham, England.
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John Stevenson
...and preferably, one would need to fit the "permanently off" version.
Regards, Tony
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Tony Jeffree
In article , Tony Jeffree writes
Actually, assuming 240V and 64A, could we not go for permanently on? At least until it stopped smoking? Please?
Reply to
Nigel Eaton
Interestingly enough, the noise level seems to have dramatically reduced since the post from Bill giving the SP on it's identity. Could this be the dawn of a new era, or is it just the calm before the storm?
Regards, Tony
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Tony Jeffree
Those who wish this NG to be the font of technical sagacity that it once was (rather than a forum of unnecessary gratuitous personal remarks that it has become by the wont of a few), might like to consider that the fault lies with the birdbrains who initiate threads of silly childish remarks and perpetuate such remarks, rather than with those who reply only to defend themselves...
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Superior Intellect
rather than with those
Pardon my french "Airy" but what a load of BOLLOX
Reply to
A Veteran Has Lung
I can't imagine any self-respecting village would miss him at all :-)
Regards, Tony
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Tony Jeffree
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The problem is that you all keep encouraging him by replying to his posts.
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!!
Reply to
lysander
Unfortunately, the person makes defamatory statements about people and organisations which they have every right to defend themselves against. It's not only trolling, it comes pretty close to libel when it is on a public forum.
Peter
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Peter A Forbes
Ignoring him doesn't work. It's been tried but because they put liquid viagra in his milk the little prick just pops up again.
He probably thinks he's pretty safe from being prosecuted for libel given that he attempts to post anonymously but his identifying header is in every post. What puts people off this route is pure cost for what you will get out of it, legal fees of thousands to get nothing in return.
However is these sorry times of high unemployment and drug related crimes it's proven fact that, for a paltry sum to the right people, you can book a weeks full board at the Cheltenham Intensive Care Hotel for only a very, very small percent on what you would have paid in legal costs.
Not that I would personally go this route but ............................. -- Regards,
John Stevenson Nottingham, England.
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John Stevenson
Cribbed from another Newsgroup with a similar problem:
Trolling is a strange phenomena, well you might think so but in fact it is quite a common behaviour pattern which takes place every day in the real world. In the work place, social gatherings and on occasion when 'acquaintances' rather than friends gather. Those types of personality that behave like this IRL transfer their habit onto Usenet.
Think about it for a minute. I am sure you all know at least one person in real life who derives great satisfaction from deliberately baiting others. Some might say that it is a mild form of psychological bullying indicating some degree of mistreatment in earlier years causing a need to 'reverse the tables' on others - to gain satisfaction and a feeling of self worth.
In real life you only have two viable options available to deal with this kind of thing. [1] You confront the individual and be prepared to demean yourself by punching his/her lights out if they do not back off. Or [2] just simply have nothing to do with them at all. The later option is of course by far the preferred option and it has been proved to be very effective. Have any of you been in this situation in real life? I am sure that many if not all of you have.
Usenet and today's electronic communication nets try to mimic real life. Its how we make sense of it in the design process. So to deal with problems that you get and which are similar to real life problems, the obvious solution is to respond as closely to real life as you can. So option [1] above would equate to having the offenders accounts pulled and access terminated. To do that you have to have clear and decisive evidence that the offender has in fact done something illegal or has contravened his service providers user policy. Alternatively option [2] which incidentally has been proved all over usenet to work, is the one to go for.
Troll methods - well they are all slightly different and many will have a detailed knowledge of the subject matter relevant to the group they are focussed on. They use it to deliberately start arguments then sit back and read with glee.
Another good wheeze is to blatantly defy the groups protocols - whatever they may be chartered or 'group ethos'.
One favourite is to pick out a few individuals or groups of individuals on opposite sides of the fence. Curry favour with one side and then the other.
Then we have the technical troll who gets kicks out of playing upon others ignorance and anger. What this troll likes to do is behave absolutely correctly within the letter of the law as it were and do so to the complete exasperation of the group. Eventually someone will take them on and that is precisely what he is waiting for. Usually its the grouper that comes off the worst out of the exchange.
'Career trolls' [as i call them] are very technically adept at hiding their ISP's and the news servers that they post from. Typically they use anonymous providers who hide their dial up access. Post headers are usually forged cleverly and the average grouper will have a very hard job to track them down.
Most trolls grow bored if they are having no luck in their endeavours and will eventually go away. It is insufficient to just ignore them, if the group continues to discuss the subjects that the troll instigated or if the groupers continue bickering amongst themselves over something the troll started. You might think they have gone but they are sitting back and watching with delight.
Ther are bands of trolls who view usenet as a wolf does the chicken run. To them it is a big game and they keep score all jostling for a place on the league ladder of troll prowess.
You might, if bored find some value out of lurking in a few troll groups. A picture is worth a thousand words. Which reminds me that this post is getting a bit too long.
There once was a famous troll who was the plague of both US and UK newsgroups. He managed to disrupt for nigh on three years and caused all sorts of mayhem both in the states and UK. In the search for his real identity many people [innocents] were accused and for some the trauma virtually scared them off usenet for good. This particular troll was indeed very very clever and his true identity was never really discovered but he never changed his usenet name or his signature. Many people spend hours researching, chasing shadows and came very close to nailing the sod but never quite managing it. Success in having his account pulled was negligible. One aspiring anti troll warrior managed it once. But it did not deter the troll at all, he was back within the hour.
Rumour has it that one of the troll hunters actually managed to find the troll in real life and that they became good friends after which the troll was never ever seen again. So far that is. But that is no doubt just a rumour, usenet folklore perhaps? Who knows.
The point of all this waffle? Well so far we have had the like of Phildo and now we have this Bob character. Is Bob really Phildo? Well the point is moot. There are similarities in behaviour and consistencies in particular focus but that is not conclusive. However, to the best of my knowledge, there has not been a 'real troll' playing in this group since I have been here. Now that's not to say there is not a troll amongst us. Some trolls like to have a group to call their own. They will behave in that group and play away from home as it were. However, some get a bit forgetful and are probably not very adept at alter ego shifting so their behaviour patter tends to spill over where they would prefer it not to.
There are quite a number of people in here who do display troll like tendencies. [Age dependant trollism onset] or it could be that some are just plain argumentative. I prefer to think the latter.
Some show little or no restraint at all. Even when the good and benefit of the group is in question. We all want this group to thrive and to fulfill the purpose for which it was set up. I am a newcomer here but I choose to be here rather than in other places and i do have genuine concern for the group and that is my motive for this post. I hope that a few of you might be persuaded to - shall we say - behave with a little more consideration. Where appropriate.
Well that's my $10 worth I have no intent that this should start an argument, I thought I'd say that before anything gets out of hand.
DON'T FEED A TROLL
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Bill

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