I believe a felony conviction precludes one from obtaining an explosives
permit of any kind, or working in a capacity that requires the handling
This was one of the points of contention when the Patriot Act was
enacted, as I recall -- it required shipping companies to get background
investigations on thousands of employees.
> (But they probably already had his fingerprints on file!)
The conviction is a state conviction; the ATF would potentially have
them for a federal conviction.
So Jerry's felony convictions would prevent him from getting the permits he
needs. That could be why he keeps claiming he needs no permits (and can
ship motors as "model airplane parts"!), as there's no way for him to get
I'm a bit surprised that no one has mentioned the JI request to the TRA BOD
in the latest TR. It seems the crux of it was "Jerry, you need to play by
the same rules as any other motor vendor, and until you can, just go
The Pretenders "Back on the Chain Gang"....
Ya know, I had some free time, so I went back to the archives and
looked for the Debby deal. What fun reading that was! Here's some
snippets from 1998-2000...
Jerry owes Darrell $xx for services rendered (advertising). Bill wants
to take Jerry up on his offer, and buy a USR rocket, and do a product
review. Darrell says; "Hey Jerry, why don't you send me the rocket,
which is worth $xx, and I'll send it to Bill. That way, I'll accept
rocket as payment for past services (advertising) Bill gets a rocket,
and you get an honest product review."
And we haven't heard from Jerry since.
Since Jerry is never going to make good on the situation, and I can't
get in trouble over telling the truth, the story goes like this:
Jerry was the first advertiser on Rocketry Online. In lieu of cash, I
accepted store credit. From November 1996 through September, 1997 the
balance rose to $465 store credit. During the 100K Contest, I offered
advertising for the balance of 1997 in exchange for two $100 kits for
the contest, as well as made arrangements to cash in all available
credit for the grand prize, a 12" diameter Big Rocket. $665 worth of
advertising for nothing from USR. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Well, it won't help get her merchant account back ,but Jerry Irvine
when his T-shirt refund deal is completed that nobody involved in the
deal will have lost any money except for himself.
So we'll see how long it'll be before Debbie gets repaid by him. We
wouldn't lie, right?
Since you brought it up...
T-shirts refunded out of pocket (Debby kept the original moneys)
What deadbeat ROL contest?
Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California USA
Bring common sense back to rocketry administration
It's the law of the jungle, Jerry. You screw one of the monkeys, the
rest of them throw rocks at you.
(in your case, you screwed the monkeys, the hippos, the dogs, the
and the gnus. Last I heard you had a ladder and were looking lustfully
at the giraffe.)
Open letter to Jerry Irvine:
I have purchased and paid for one of your rockets
a few months ago, yet you seem unable to deliver
it or answer my email regarding the rocket. Is
your company actually making deliveries?
Yet another unsatisfied customer of U.S Rockets.
Oh and if you are wondering about the order:
INVOICE 08-Jul-00 08:05 PM Order Number: 517
Its totally amazing..with all the posts in this group concerning mr
scam rip-off Irvine, that folks still actually send him money for vapor
ware........I would rather throw my money on the lottery, as the odds
of winning is much greater than getting a product from Scam Man
Irvine........As for his replies on email its hard to answer email
when you have to wait your turn at the public library or Kinkos to use
the computer.....Come on Jerry Scam Man Irvine, make a liar out of me,
bet you can't do it dude! Prove me wrong, just this one time! And
folks ask why I continually bash this idiot and hound him on here all
the time....just so if 1 person gets to save his money its worth
A little hunting tells me that the nosecone was nothing but a litany of
"it's someone else's fault", so Bill stepped up and offered to order a
kit and pay Darrell for it.
Of course, Bill's comments as to the "quality" of the tubes was
entertaining, matches what I have seen first hand, and what several
others (but not everyone) have stated from their own personal experience.
Your going to love this one testimonial Phil. I did a ebay for USR
Sonic 2200 several months ago directly from JI. He charged me less than
5 bones for USPS shipping and I got the damned thing within the same
week of the auction! I'm still in disbelief how quick I got it and it
was in perfect condition. LOVE the balsa cone too.
Sucker should sail on a G125 to G25 combo.
The love is pure nostalgia for me. I haven't done a balsa cone since
like 1981 or so. To me this particular cone mates PERFECTLY with the
BT. Makes me wonder what the secret really is. CNC wood lathe maybe?
Is that the car with the bullet holes?
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
>>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<
Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf
www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org
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