<< What is going on with the whole Aerotech fiasco?>>
Uh, what "fiasco" would that be? If you mean the fire, that's old news. They've
been in production at their new facility for quite some time.
<< The discussion seems to have died out here but the lack of motors continues.
Are they in production, coming soon, or still a long way off? >>
The vendor at our local launches has gobs of AT motors.
It also depends on which particular motors you're looking for. 29mm single-use
motors have been on hold for a while due to problems with the casing supplier.
Apparently AT has designed new F and G single-use motors that use a molded
case, and these are now in production and should be available soon.
Not sure what you mean by 'lack of motors'. There are some categories
that are lacking (particularly in the single-use lines), but overall,
they seem to be catching up quite well. I bought a big box of reloads
from Commonwealth recently, and was very happy with both their prices
and service. eHobbies also has most of the reloads, as well as some of
the Econojet motors (such as the F21 that will fit in an Estes E size
mount). Aerotech recently announced that they had resolved a supplier
problem with casings for some of the F/G single-use motors, so those
should be out soon as well. I'm looking forward to the single-use D/E
engines coming back (18mm D and 24mm E), and would like some G80-4
motors for my Apogee Saturn V, but the reloads are available for all of
those categories, so I've just started getting going with using the RMS
The dealer (and pretty much the only dealer where I live) in the Toronto
Canada area is basically out of all Aerotech motors. He says he was told by
the Areotech reps the next shipment to him will be April or May '05. Estes
motor shipment are in all the time. So, I would say something is definitely
up with Areotech still (keeping up with demand).
In Saskatoon (Saskatchewan, Canada), our local HobbyWorld has received a
nice shipment of Aerotech motors. They're definitely shipping across
the border right now.
Do you know of a dealer(s) near Toronto you just shipped to? Sigma Rockets
(formerly Advanced Rocketry group) in Mississauga, Ontario does not have
much left and says 5-6months until he gets more. Can you give me some info
on who just got shipments around my area then (Toronto area)?
With all due respect, I would hope that Aerotech is doing a bit more to
get things out into the system than just telling folks "check with their
distributor". I just went to my local mom-and-pop hobby shop a week or
so ago, and told them that you were shipping product, as I just bought a
big box full from eHobbies and Commonwealth. Their response was that
their distributor said the items weren't available. Given the problems
caused by the fire, I can understand why the hobby shops and the
distributors might be a little reticent to take them up again. This
would seem to be a situation where you need to be a bit more pro-active
to get distributors to get them stocked up again.
Given the current stage of our recovery, it would be non-productive to
solicit orders from distributors that we cannot fill in a timely fashion. So
for now we've determined that it's better that the orders be
As the backorders are filled and inventory becomes available, we will begin
encouraging distributors to place larger stocking orders.
Well, that makes sense, and is understandable, but you're also left with
the unfortunate reality that our local hobby shop thinks Aerotech no
longer exists. At the very least, keeping enough contact with them
("We're shipping preliminary orders" "We're shipping 24mm RMS reloads"
etc.) in order to keep Aerotech visible in the marketplace can only be
productive, in both the short and long term. The hobby has a difficult
existence as it is, and I have to admit that most hobby shops I've
frequented over the years may not be 'targeted' towards the rocketry
enthusiast -- and as such, we all need to keep it as visible as possible.
Why don't *you* get off your butt and harrass the hobby store in question .
they should in turn harrass their distributor (who seems to be the problem
here) and hope fully they will call aerotech.
If your hobby store wont harrass the distributor, the the distributors name
and number, along with the hobbys stores contact within the distributor.
Post it here. we'll make SURE they get off their butts
Don't know quite why you've got a hair up your own butt, but...
You apparently didn't get my reference to already having discussed this
with my local hobby shop. I have, in fact, talked with them, and they
did, in fact, contact their distributor, and the feedback that they were
given was that Aerotech products were not available. My follow up with
the shop was to show them two places that had them available, to show
them a copy of what I'd just bought, and inform them that I was looking
to place another similar size order.
I beg your pardon? I'm sorry, but I actually have my own business to
run. I'm not in the rocketry business, it's my hobby. I pointed out
that Gary, as one of the MAJOR providers in the hobby, actually IS in
the business, and that there are things he could do that would benefit
both his company and his customers.
I try to patronize the smaller mom-and-pop shops because, in past years,
they've been the place where one could get better service (though I'm
feeling as though that's gone by the wayside, now). This is the sole,
remaining, non-chain hobby shop left within 20+ miles of me. I have
neither the time nor the impetus to attempt to run their business for
them. My role, as a customer, is to inform them of what I want and am
willing to pay for, and they will either follow through and have some
additional sales, or they won't. I'll be damned if I'm going to
micro-manage and/or harass some business when I've got plenty of my own
problems to deal with.
Really? Why, that would be great. Sure, let me post their phone number
here, and their distributor, so that the usual rmr crowd could call them
up and give them a dose of what most people have to come here to
endure. I'm sure that not only will that solve the problem of motor
availability, but I'll get a big thank-you from them the next time I
David "yes, I've got a short temper tonight" Erbas-White
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