OT: What is wrong with America?

I have been reading some news lately... school shootings... a day later, more school shootings, another day later, more school shootings. All of them
involves the shooter killing himself (cause he know he's screwed, either its the chair or life in prison without parole). So why is it that it seems as if everyone in America (or the world for that matter) thinks they gotta vent anger by shooting someone?
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Simple really Tai Fu, America is morally bankrupt. Spiritially this nation is hurting. God has been banned from the schools, but condoms and secret abortions are encouraged. I am NOT a bible thumper, but too many people are SPIRITIALLY lost in this nation. Its really that simple; but white liberals will see to it that everyone goes to hell with them :(
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"Lunar" is right. America has been under assault from evil for decades and has largely surrendered. It's going to hell in a handbasket faster and faster every year. In 2010 America intends to cede its autonomy to an unelected, unaccountable "North American" government. RIP freedom.
But there are other forces at work here too. Although perhaps not a factor in this recent string of school shootings, almost every school shooting by students has involved kids under the influence of antidepressant drugs. One savvy independent researcher studying this found that Kip Kinkel, the kid who shot up my high school alma mater, was taking antidepressants that ACTUALLY WORSENED HIS VIOLENT TENDENCIES. This of course has all been covered up by the pharmaceutical/political powers that be--bad for business you know!
I love this country but it's full of rot right now. It's not just the Bush Administration that's in a state of denial. Most Americans are living in a fantasy that no longer exists. Occasionally something like 9/11 or a school shooting briefly jars them back to reality.
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There is some evidence to this. When a society loses the ability to believe in something bigger than itself, it loses hope.
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Even if that something is nothing more that a myth?
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Starlord wrote:

Yes. The power of believing is incredible.
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:45:07 -0400, "Darrell D. Mobley"

It works the OTHER way, too. Some of the worst atrocities in human history have been committed in the name of God. (By whatever name you want to use...)
All it takes is the belief that the 'something bigger than society' is on *your* side... and you get fanatics willing to do just about any kind of barbarism for your pet cause.
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SPIRITIALLY lost? Then I've been lost all my life, I left the chech so long ago that I've forgotten just when the last time I went to a mass was. I'm a free thinker now a days and don't need someone in a chuch telling me what I can and can't do.
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Do the math. It's a very small percentage. Of course that doesn't make it ok and is no consolation to the people affected by it.
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FWIW, I agree. A good book on the subject of the sort of nutbag that commits these acts is "Anatomy of Motive" by John Douglas, formerly a profiler with the FBI.
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I agree with the other comments about moral bankruptcy, though I do not necessarily connect morality with spirituality. In terms of these shootings - when a human or any other animal is beset on all sides with forces it cannot comprehend or predict, it lashes out.
In earlier, more tyrannical societies, you basically did what the kings men told you. In some cases, there was even a way to appeal to the king directly. But either way, the results (no matter how harsh) were simple an understandable.
Now flash forward a few centuries. We have the illusion of freedom, but our lives are minutely controlled by a government and corporations we cannot see or comprehend. Worse, decisions are conditional, arbitrary, and capricious. And, unless we can buy into the system with our own lawyers, irrevocable.
Some of us can work the system and/or tolerate it; an increasing number cannot. So they go literally insane.
A very small example: I made my usual electronic payment to my cable TV company last month. For some reason this one wasn't processed correctly, and was refused as the equivalent of "insufficient funds." with a $25 fee. I demonstrated that all the numbers were correct, plenty of money in the bank, etc. to no result. If it doesn't go through for ANY reason, my fault or not, even a technical error at their end - I pay.
There is a REASON we have more guards and metal detectors at our family court than the criminal courthouse across the street....
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I am going to disagree with all you folks.
My theory? 1) Consequences, and a distinct lack thereof.
Used to be if a guy ran his mouth, somebody punched him. Now he has a "disorder", and if he gets a well deserved black eye he sues.
If a kid was a brat, he got spanked, or sent to his room, or "something". Now he gets a pat on the head and a pill.
If you killed somebody, you took a seat on ol' sparky. Now you get years of bullshit. Just look at the nonsense surrounding the Brian Nichols trial. He shot a judge and others in front of dozens of witnesses...what is there to discuss?
and 2) Too many people. Too many people trying to do too many things in too short a time. Hurry hurry, stress stress. Courtesy is the first casualty. And hey, if you run over somebody in your big SUV while you rush too and fro, it's no big deal since there are no consequences, remember?
It ain't religion, it ain't faith, it ain't spirituality, or a lack of any of these that are causing our problems. WE are causing our problems.
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I agree. My tirade tries to explain whey they're nuts; yours explains why they act on it. Both apply.
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Cool. Group hug?
;-)
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Tweak, well said.
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says...

Thanks. I'm running for office next week on a platform of a hickory switch for every kid's behind, one free "punch a jerk" card (per annum, there are lot of jerks out there needin' a punching) and free housing in Montana.
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Tweak wrote:

....and lifetime of free beer.
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
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says...

Uhhhh, no. Buy your own beer, ya galdang socialist. The free housing is just to get people to move "there" away from "here".
;-)
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Tweak wrote:

But but but...Montana's nice!
Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75
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writes:

OK, how about New Jersey?
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