This really jerks my chain. These outfits you think would have the decency to
announce they are no longer are going to be doing business for whatever reason.
I can appreciate that other priorities take precedence and they can no longer
service customers. The latest big failure is DG&A rocketry. The main page will
come up but all the links are 404. Wonder if they are going under too.
I did get an orbital transport from him along with a clone of the Gemini Titan
rocket. Nice kits.
Arizona Experimental Propulsion Systems made a hasty exit from the field but at
least had the decency to make a posting announcing their demise. The owner
Norman Egolf posted he had to close down and lord knows I feel sorry for him.
I bought two large Ex motors from him and they are very fine. Honored my order
even after he made the announcement. I did read where one fellow didn't receive
product but hope that issue was worked out.
I hope you're wrong but with the engine situation that way it is, rocketry
popularity could begin to plummet even before the lawsuit is resolved. The
smaller suppliers could indeed bite the dust like you are predicting. I don't
want that but things may get really hard to participate in HPR if we don't get
any relief on the lawsuit side.
Hey, I agree. The kits I got a look at were nice. "Pimp Daddy Rocketry"
just seems funny to me, as a name for a rocket company.
BTW, sure hope those two EX motors you bought were just cases or
chemical kits. ATF kind of frowns on selling ready made EX loads or
motors.. Remember, big brother is watching.(:-)
First, you have to approach the hobby like you are going to be here to
stay no matter what the regulatory environment. If that means getting a
permit, then go get a permit. Treat the results of the lawsuit as a
non-event: if we win, great. If we lose, it doesn't affect your flying.
Regulatory relief for APCP does nothing for regulated recovery or
Second, with the way sales have been in the 3rd quarter of this year and
they way they are working out in the 4th quarter, some companies are
going to be pulling up their tent stakes. I wish it weren't true, but
those are the facts. It's just the law of supply and demand.
It doesn't help that almost everybody that comes into the hobby thinks
they have great rocket designs that would sell like hotcakes if they
just put the designs into production. The barrier to entry in this
hobby is very low for anyone who wants to join the cottage industry.
The result is naturally going to be a lot of attrition.
The issue is the regulation is too strict. People are less likely to
enter into the HPR hobby with the current LEUP requirements. Quite
frankly alot of folks are not in the situation of being able to
successfully apply for a permit and have no recourse for contingency.
I contend that allowing modelers to keep some APCP on hand is no safety
hazard. Let's face it, there is a large number who have done that
successfully for years. So many have pointed out that the ATFE is not
willing to negotiate and that time has passed. The ATFE may rightly
feel they have the upper hand and will win the lawsuit. If HPR loses,
sure there will always be serious folks who will partake of the hobby
but I think the potential for growth will be bleaker.
1. The one reason you listed, if you EVER desire to fly alone (which,
unlike SCUBA diving, is often done).
2. There may be a shortage of the type of engine that you desire with
your local vendors, and you need to get them from another vendor.
3. Local vendors don't necessarily show up to every launch.
4. Rumor has it that fires can occur at manufacturers, which can create
a shortage of certain motors. Thus, some folks like to have motors on
hand, as a 'just in case'.
5. You may be launching a 'special project', and require a
larger-than-normal number of certain motors.
6. A vendor might stop manufacturing motors that you prefer, so you
'stock up' for the long term.
7. You might be doing a TARC-like competition, and want to have a batch
of motors that have a consistent lot number, so that you can remove that
variable from your competition problems.
and last but not least,
8. You might simply understand that unless it can be proven that there
is an OVERRIDING REASON for government involvement, that here in America
we tend to believe that people are allowed to pursue their individual
pursuits without government interference.
I'm sure that other folks might be able to add to this list, especially
since I just came up with them off the top of my head...
That you for making my point. Every reason you mentioned could be
accomplished with a club magazine and an appointed gatekeeper. There is
no need to have APCP at your house. That doesn't disregard that some
may "want" to have APCP at their house, but there is no need. For every
scenario you can come up, other than being a felon, I can come up with
an alternative scenario to having APCP at your house, i.e. "on hand".