Pimp Daddy Rocketry OOP??

Since you missed it, I left if in this response. There is no "need" but apparently there is a "want".

Pimp Daddy, I mean PDR is still producing rockets. He was just redoing his websight. Bad web form in not displaying an index page stating that his site would be down for a few days, but he is back up and selling quality kit reproductions.

Funny how this started... nevermind. Why bother, this NG sucks and is only really useful for a sounding board. Back over to TRF for discussions...

Lunar

snipped-for-privacy@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Discuss what? Myopia? At least on r.m.r you can say what you want without your step-father slapping you across the face for having an opinion.

I'm sorry,

You live in an ideal world. Many places don't have the means to do that. Sure you can go that way but the hobby is not going to be able to support any growth. I'm in an area with a very limited number of LEUP holders who cannot support the demands for everyone's storage requirements. Ever burn a stick of propellant? Ever attend a mixing course? Well an uncored stick burns like a road flare. Sure I wouldn't want to light one in the house. A fair number of propellant manufacturers do other stuff besides hobby rocketry to stay in business. I've seen peoples' eyes light up when they've seen an HP rocket go up but when they hear about the difficulties of procuring propellant, walk away discouraged. If you don't like the system, change it. Which is certainly something the lawsuit is trying to do.

Have we met? Let me introduce myself:

Preacher: Choir. Choir: Preacher.

I understand what you are saying. I agree with what you are saying. I just think the only people can control our minds are us. I refuse to let the U.S. Government control my attitude over whether or not I get to participate in a hobby, no matter what it is. Where there is a will, there is a way.

You are exactly correct in using a club situation and indeed that may be the only alternative if the lawsuit goes nowhere. Still I don't believe the average joe can afford to stockpile enough propellant to be a safety issue mainly due to the cost. I've been told that some of the hardcore users really keep a big pile of propellant around and indeed I don't have an issue with some oversight there.

Isn't that TWF - the weenie forum with a bunch of kids showing how smart they are?

Pound for pound, 50 pounds of black powder is a whole lot more dangerous than 50 pounds of APCP. Why the difference? The *ONLY* difference is _not_ the fact that Congress passed a law making a 50 pound exemption for sporting use with antique firearms ? the _real_difference is that the NRA *BOUGHT* a 50 pound exemption. Any other individual or group should be able to state that they are no more of a risk to have 50 pounds of black powder than an antique gun owner, and the government

*should* be made to extend the exemption to ALL Americans or repeal it as discrimination.

If gun owners can have 50 pounds of a highly explosive product like black powder, a rocketeer should be able to have 25 pounds of APCP.

Actually, I think 50lbs APCP would be totally safe and if one went and bought one of those fancy magazines, 100lbs. would be more like it. :-)

Oh, I agree with the black powder issue. How many times a year do we hear about the reloaders blowing themselves up? Precisely. If the shooters can handle a substance that is explosive and APCP is simply a flammable solid, I don't know why we can't have a rocket fuel exemption. Main reason we can't get it easily is we don't have enough members to buy off congress like the NRA was able to do plus the ATFE doesn't want to negotiate. I know it is a longshot but I hope we win. I know it would go on appeal but we could at least fight for some relief while on appeal.

I would like to see the ACLU take on a case to expand the 50 pound exemption to all Americans. To leave it just for antique gun buffs is pure discrimination.

Then they should join our lawsuit on APCP, because if we can handle a personal exemption for black powder, we should be able to handle a personal exemption for a lesser component.

And then they should hammer them shit out of them for repayment of all of our legal expenses because we have had to pay for the law suit twice. I guess if they reimbursed our legal expenses, then we'd be paying three times. What a country.

Too close to the 2nd for the ACLU.

Darrell... The big problem - which we experienced with our club - is that no one wants to be responsible for others storing in their magazine. There are just way too many people out there willing to sue if anything goes wrong. I can see some lawyer making a case against a magazine owner based on suing bar owners for a car accident of a drunk patron.

D. S. Caskey

Darrell... The big problem - which we experienced with our club - is that no one wants to be responsible for others storing in their magazine. There are just way too many people out there willing to sue if anything goes wrong. I can see some lawyer making a case against a magazine owner based on suing bar owners for a car accident of a drunk patron.

D. S. Caskey

Darrell... The big problem - which we experienced with our club - is that no one wants to be responsible for others storing in their magazine. There are just way too many people out there willing to sue if anything goes wrong. I can see some lawyer making a case against a magazine owner based on suing bar owners for a car accident of a drunk patron.

D. S. Caskey

Darrell... The big problem - which we experienced with our club - is that no one wants to be responsible for others storing in their magazine. There are just way too many people out there willing to sue if anything goes wrong. I can see some lawyer making a case against a magazine owner based on suing bar owners for a car accident of a drunk patron.

D. S. Caskey