[Planet News] NAR/TRA Joint Statement on BATFE Issues, dated October 9, 2006

You have a gun? That makes you a MEAN and DANGEROUS person... shame on you for excersising your Second Ammendment Rights! Shame on you!

Lunar

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Liz,

I am just tired of life and people. That same monkey crap day after month after year after decade after century after millinnea... the SAME human crap time and time and time and time again. Can't humans do ANYTHING different for a change???

Lunar - Wish> Lunarlos calm down before they make coffee a controlled substance. >

Burnt shavings are good for killing the grass in the cracks in the sidewalk.

Phil

Try Zoloft. I think it worked for Steve a few years ago. Only problem is you have to keep taking it.

Phil

Haven't tried the WL but I gotta tell you, Blue Thunder did wonders for my Blacked Eyed Susans :)

Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75

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Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75

That might not be a good idea. Do you want the DEA to regulate fertalizer grains bigger than 62.5 grams as "drug paraphenalia"? :-)

You've come up with a fantastic idea for a way to use the AT reload casings that are now worthless to me: plug the forward closure and use them to hold flowers. I'm not sure how I'm going to plug that big hole in the front of the Pro38 casing though...

OK, I should have added "serious".

My 2001 'space' Odyssey has been hit several times. Most recent was last Sunday. Got a little yellow paint streak on the hood.

The BATFE incident is the only one involving the destruction of a vehicle. Wanna bet that it shows up on their incident report as caused by HPR?

Hmmm, I think thye come in 2 different sizes. I'll have to double check mine. is caliber just hundredths of an inch? And do you measure the OD of the cartridge not counting the rim?

My thought was to convert them into either a telescope or a flashlight.

I'd take that bet. The incident never happened so how could they cite it?

Lunarlos, I'm sorry to hear that you are weary of life. There does not seem to be a simple answer. People are people and we haven't evolved since recorded history, we just have more toys. You can distract yourself-that's what I do. You can drug yourself with serotonin reuptake inhibitors or whatever those monkeys are putting into our brains this week. From the tenor of your note, it sounds like you should talk to someone, since being too depressed is dangerous and unproductive. Things are probably no more screwed up than they ever were. I'm sure every generation feels it's the last good one. I have to believe that even oppressive governments are temporary.

snipped-for-privacy@juno.com wrote:

Apparently this kind of system/plane was the one that hit the building in New York today...

David Erbas-White

Probably staged by the ATF ;-)

No, it is the EPA that will swing in to action. Perclorates are a serious contaminate of ground water.

Alan

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They already have.

In the words of Bill Paxton in the movie Aliens: "Game over man, Game over".

The legal battle is one sided. They have unlimited money and time. They will get everything they want sooner or later. We live in "terror everywhere" times. Rockets are an easy target. We are throwing money into the wind.

HDS

get everything

an easy target.

Agreed.. I stopped giving money to the legal fund right after

The BATFE will only drag this out until NAR/TRA have nothing left in their legal funds.

I really wish that TRA/NAR had spent the money on ways to find storage for the various clubs around the county, and provided guidance on LEUPS for those clubs. We'd all be sitting pretty right now.....

:)

This is an uphill battle, no doubt about it. But I disagree with the attitude of (as ex-Governor Bill Clements once said) "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it." This is clearly an issue of the Federal Government grabbing too much power and control over what should be (and once was) a local and state issue. It is indicative of the emerging dominance of the Executive Branch made possible by the complete abdication of leadership by the Legislative Branch. It is the Congress that holds the ultimate solution to this mess and it is the Congress that is unwilling to act. And to be clear I aim this criticism at the Federal Government as a whole, not exclusively to one political party or another.

While I oppose the regulation of HPR motors I do have a LEUP to allow me to continue my hobby at the same time. At the same time I support the lawsuit and legislative attempts for long term relief. I also plan to vote against all incumbents in the next election. If every voter simply voted against the incumbent (regardless of party) and continued to do this until Congress does their job we would send a very clear message to our elected representatives that they represent US and that WE can keep voting them out of power every two years.

No >> The legal battle is one sided. They have unlimited money and time.