Yes and as I said I would recommend ensuring you're on the legal side in your community. Some are funny about making explosives in backyards. If you are interested in BP, you should contact a local fireworks club which would have members familiar with regulations, attorneys, and safety measures need to undertake such an endeavor.
Joel. phx
No, I'm quoting that from the ATF Orange Book. ARSA doesn't make the rules.
Mike Fisher
do you plan to make motors yourself ?
How many times must this be brought up ?
If Bob bothers want to blast a stump , they can mix up some binaries and bloow that stump up. No leup needed.
BUT, if the Bob brothers go to Bubbas farm and charge him $100 to blow his stump, and they mix binaries, then they need a leup.
Heck, this is the example in the frecking ATF documents.
I have posted this example at least 5 times this year, and the year is only
4 months old.
no you would not. you would not, and do not need a LEUP to buy black power in a can from a gun store either.
EXPLOSIVES".
read their example of making stump blowing stuff for personal use in the ATF documents.
EXPLOSIVES".
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Sadly, some folks _want_ to believe that permits are needed for anything and everything.
They are YOUR freinds and collegues Ray.
what does that have to do with anything?
I am just asking a simple question about the ARSA new item.... It seems to state that the person doing the question already has a LEUP for the manufacturer of his own propellant.... and then goes and asks if he needs a LEMP.... which the BATFE says no you don't....
The better question would be as I said DO I need a LEUP to manufacture APCP for my own personal use..... and some say as long as its not in commerce you don't need one....
And since 50% of what is said in here is BS.....who knows if that is or isn't a correct interpretation of law?
shockie B)
What did they tell you when you called that phone number at the bottom of the letter?
Then why ask here? Post what they tell you when you called.
Joel. phx
I don't need a LEUP to buy a can of BP in a gun store? Sure I do, unless it for recreational antique gun use.... or did I miss something somewhere?
shockie B)
Joel: no way dude am I going anywhere near the feds with questions...
I may be paranoid, but I can envision them backtracking my phone number through callerid, doing a complete background check on me,then doing a black bag job to bug my computers etc and the next thing you know I will be disappeared as a noncombatant terrorist for having incorrect thoughts against the state..... I'll pass thankyou....
shockie B)
Have you never bought a can of BP from a gun store?
Joel. phx
Last I checked, that was the only kind of BP they sell in gun stores.
-dave w
No, I've never purchased BP ,, but I did just call several local GUN shops and NONE of them sell BP anymore.... And ONE said I didn't need a LEUP to purchase a can and another said I do.... They also said that most local gun vendors stopped carrying BP after 9/11.... it seems its a pyrodex world here where I live.....
So what is the law on purchasing BP ? Federal Law that is.... wow...
shockie B)
So you are at the same stalemate. There's no way to trust the information posted here, and you won't clear it up at the source. May I suggest you avoid this endeavor as the least-risk approach?
Joel. phx
Not required, by the way....
Yes. A wide range of recreational uses.
Ok I just called "Biff's Gun World" up in Louisville....I figured if ANYBODY knew what the law was, it would be Biff at Biff's Gun World....
They told me as long as I was purchaisng the Bp for use in antique firearms that No LEUP or magazine for storage up to 50 lbs was required.... they quoted me a price of $15 per lb for 4fg....IS that a good price? Theys aid All i had to do was show my drivers License to prove who I was? They didn't say IF i had to fill out any Federal forms? Would I ?
So my next question is this: where and what is the cheapest form of antique gun can I purchase that would qualify for me to purchase BP for its use? IS there anything under $100 on the market?
shockie B)
I told you so.
Well if you buy 20 cans mailorder I think you can get that closer to $10. Might have been 50 cans.
If he's the only one selling it, what's a bad price?
When you go in, ask Biff if you'll have to fill out any -f e d e r a l- forms, then kind of look over your shoulder, wink and say "I'd like to avoid any paperwork,...". If he says no forms clap your hands realllly loud once and shout "praise alla".
If they want to nail you on intended use and the gun has never been fired,....
Surely there's a Muzzle loader's guild in Kantucky of all places, Biff might know.
Joel. phx
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