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No. Those were specific campaign names. The Desert War did not include Operation Torch. The Americans had no part in the battles of Tobruk nor El Alamein. Nor did they fight the Itaians and the Afrika Corps in Egypt and Libya. They didn't fight in the Quatara depression, nor did they do anything with the LRDG or the SAS. That was the Desert War, and it was entirely a Commonwealth campaign.
The American forces fought the Vichy French when they landed in Morocco and Algeria. It was only after the Vichy forces were defeated that the Americans faced the last of the Afirka Corps in Tunisia where the British and Commonwealth forces had forced them to concentrate by attacking from the East. With the British, American and Free French attacking from the West, and the British 8th Army attacking from the East,the Afrika Corps was finally forced to surrender during May of 1943.
The Americans were in Western North Africa from November of 1942 until May of 1943. The Desert War lasted from 1940 until October of 1942 with the second battle of El Alamein. The Americans weren't even there.
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On Sep 11, 8:43 am, "Jessie_c" <jessie_c_2athotmaildotcom> wrote:

At least no one spelled it "The Dessert War" this time, as past threads have. But that would provide an alternative explanation for the SAS later painting their vehicles pink...
Cheers
Moramarth
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Wasn't there a movie called The Trail of the Pink Panzer?
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On Sep 15, 11:50 pm, "Jessie_c" <jessie_c_2athotmaildotcom> wrote:

IIRC, after the "Pink Panther" movie came out someone thought it funny to paint a surviving Panther pink... (Bastogne? Or did they do a King Tiger by mistake?) There's a T-34 parked on waste ground somewhere in London (Bermondsey?) which gets re-decorated every so often by the local "street artists", apparently with the tacit approval of the owner. It would make for an interesting competition entry model...
Cheers,
Moramarth
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And of course there's always the infamous pink tank from Prague.
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On 10/09/2011 22:23, willshak wrote:

Bill,     I'm sorry you took my message as a slight on the contribution of the American forces to the North African campaign. That was not my intention: I simply wanted to point out that there were no American units in the Desert War. The tide was turned, by Commonwealth forces, at the Second Battle of El Alamein, and Rommel was on the retreat to Tunisia by November 1942.
Just over half the tanks at Alamein were American-built, with half of those being Shermans, their first time in combat. They were painted in the UK standard desert colour, Light Stone.
The Torch landings and subsequent operations, by a mixed US, British and Free French force, took place in Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia, in the coastal agricultural regions protected from the desert by the Atlas mountains. The intention was to press Rommel from two sides, with the British Eight Army pursuing him through Libya and into Tunisia.
The Kasserine Pass defeat was due to poor leadership. Changes in doctrine followed and leaders were removed, and the failure was not repeated.
Back on topic, the LRDG used Ford and Chevrolet trucks and later the Willys Jeep, all American designs though some were built in Canada. There don't seem to be any other LRDG vehicle kits in production at the moment, though Tamiya have done an LRDG Chevrolet truck in the past, and 1/76th scale models of a Jeep and a Chevrolet truck have been issued under Matchbox and Revell labels.
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willshak wrote the following:

I am truly sorry for my remarks last night. I was in a rage mood and overly patriotic due to the events of 10 years ago on this date. Today, I am watching the memorial service and replays of that event with a lump in my throat and tears welling up in my eyes. To all those members that I responded to, please forgive me. Bless us all.
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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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There's nothing needs forgiving - we all post in haste sometimes, and you're amongst friends here. And you have my sympathies for 9/11, for some the hurt never really goes away. I don't have satellite, but when I'm at my Aunt's I watch the NHK news; they're still coping with the effects of the Earthquake/Tsunami, so they're having special programming to cover both 9/11 and the 6 month anniversary of their disaster, timed to match the actual events. Given the nuke problem is still dragging on, I'm thinking of Gernot too.

Best wishes,

Moramarth
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we know your a decent guy, moramarth. 2 of my former dj friends worked in the towers. one was on the air. so sometimes it's just a dead zone inside. i still don't know how to cope with my friends being gone.
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On 11/09/2011 16:29, willshak wrote:

Bill,     There's nothing to forgive, for my part I was not offended so much as perplexed, I did not expect such vehemence from you and was worried that I had touched a raw nerve, perhaps a family member who didn't come home from North Africa.
BBC Panorama had a program on the Death of Bin Laden on Monday. Watching it or one of the US programs of that event may go some way to restoring your equilibrium.
I can remember watching the events of 9-11 unfold on television, during the morning (we had a TV in the office then, and the word soon got round to tune in to the news). In the weeks that followed almost the whole world stood by you, recognising the enormity of the attack, and also that we were likely to have our own to deal with soon enough. Most of us are still here.
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wrote:

themselves.
cities.
You're doing better than I, I can't watch any of it without a profound sense of sadness and rage. While I have the utmost respect for those like Todd Beamer, I can't watch the Flight 93 movie. I watched the WTC movie, once when it was on TV, but that was it.
Between the animals that did it, the fools who let it happen do to poor leadership, the garbage that seek political gain from it and the brain damaged trash that claim Bush did it to start a war, my estimation of humanity is redeemed only by those like Mr. Beamer.
The entire incident is so nauseating on so many levels. And despite the happy death of Bin Laden I personally beleive the bill for this has not been paid in full and probably never will be.
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crime against humanity like that are beyond measure and i have no sense that i will ever get ober the hughe gaping wound blown into my life.
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