Makes you wish were the ridee ?
Take a hike 'till your hat floats, ye ass.
"Waste is a terrible thing to mind"
"Some prisoners at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison were ridden like animals"
Man, those Gi's in Iraq have all the fun huh?
Fuck the Iraqi's!~
As much as I will agree that ONLY the true POWs are entitled to
protection under the Geneva Convention, that is NO
excuse to abuse non-POW prisoners. Yes, interrogation IS a dirty "job" one
that you really don't want a "choir boy"
doing. But actual physical abuse IS stepping over the line.
Intimidation, and psychological tactics are quite effective in breaking
down the interrogated party. Such as
forcing them to strip nude in the presence of others, particularly females.
But hopefully there shouldn't be a need to
stoop to the levels of the enemy and to engage in actual physical torture in
order to extract information. Use the
THREAT of physical force, but not use physical force itself.
And your statement of "F#$% the Iraqis" is the very attitude/reason why
we now have soldiers facing court-martial
proceedings for the "mistreatment" of prisoners. With the exception of the
animals who murdered Mr. Berg's son Nick,
they are STILL human beings and deserve to be treated as such. People do
not see them as being human beings with
families. Many of whom have lived in fear for so long that they don't know
what freedom is or how to act now that they
have it. We need to treat all of the prisoners NOT just the POWs with the
same respect that we would want them to
treat OUR people.
To do otherwise just brings us down to their level, and that scares me a
whole hell of a lot more then any other
damage that they might be able to inflect on us as a nation. And that IS
not the reason that I enlisted in the US
Army, I enlisted to protect OUR way of life. NOT to end up stooping to the
same tactics that our enemy use.
Now granted I personally would love to say "F#$% it" let's just bomb the
entire region until it's nothing but a
molten mess, BUT that would not bring back Nick Berg, or any of the other
American men and women who have been killed
over there. And NOT all of the people in that area hate us, or our way of
life. They just want the freedom to live
their lives the way that they want. That is NOT asking for too much is
I'm afraid your response will be falling on deaf ears - "Mr. America",
as he calls himself (good God!) is really a middle-aged troll who's used
umpteen pseudonyms as many on RMS have killfiled him under his previous
monikers. He's only here to stir the pot.
First-rate response, though... ;-)
After reading his posting the first time I'd gotten the impression that
he was little more then a troll, but after
reading it a second time. I felt a need to make an "intelligent" reply to
his post. And I think that most of my
brothers and sisters who are still in the Service of this great nation of
ours would agree with what I had said.
And he will now be joining the ranks of my killfile/bit bucket.
I wonder if an Troops were killed in the capture of these Iraqi Prisoners? I
wonder how many troops were spared death because we had these iraqi
prisoners locked up? I wonder if the "Torture" saved any lives? Furthermore,
I wonder now how many will die now that nearly 1000 of these captured
Iraqi's have been left free to raom the country and cause destruction! WTF
are we doing in Iraq? Hey Saddam will be back in Iraq later in June, I guess
with him there and the US beginning to Pull out, Saddam can again get
control over his little peice of the planet!
in article firstname.lastname@example.org, Francis X. Kranick, Jr. at
email@example.com wrote on 5/21/04 2:35 PM:
Middle aged you say? I would have thought he was more likely 14 or so ...at
Perhaps I'm being generous in the term 'middle aged'... IIRC, there
was a photo of Dennis on some website with him sitting at a drumset. He
looked around 50-60 years of age. Dennis, don't try and tell us you're
younger; you'll just be lying -- again...
No reason I could see that he can't master the English language,
refrain from F-Bombs, understand the intricacies of Mideast politics or
perform simple math problems...
It would appear that our 10,000 monkeys tapping on 10,000 keyboards are
rolled up in just one backward human being... with similar results.
you guys know...the trolls love the time we waste on them...to them its better
then the sex they never get,especially since inflatable suzie sprung that leak.
Why not just ignore him,and not give him/her/it (even he is confused I am
sure!) the satisfaction of watching us bitch about plonking him...