Still more signs the Dems will be a extinct group soon.
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Gunner, laughing because they simply don't get it.
It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu.
Here is the first few words from the above link; reasoning to be used by democrats to argue conservatism... it says a lot by what garbage if does say:
"Q: What is conservatism? A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
Q: What is wrong with conservatism? A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world."
Gunner!! SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! They need to think Dean is a good pick.
With any luck they will give Hillary the nomination in 2008 AND get Feinstein / Schumer to make gun control one of the main party planks for the election.
"The Party of Hate" OMG!!! (can't say God in public) I belong to no party but you have really hit the nail. I am amazed at the truly vile hatred coming from the left. Isn't it the precursor to violence? I CAN visualize people like Cliffy going "Postal" ...but aren't they anti gun?
I think the problem is in trying to define the terms conservative and liberal in today's reality. The founders were true liberals as was Lincoln, in my book, as they broke from the past and paved the way to a brighter future.
In my humble opinion today's liberals represent government as their true God, and today's conservatives want less government and more individual responsibility made possible by ownership. Ownership of our own home, education, ss funds, and the like.
I think we could argue all day long if we stuck to trying to define these two terms as they are applied today. My decisions at the voting pole are based on my values and I look for the party or person who best reflects my values. It seems to be that today's liberals/democrats, or liberals, or democrats want to give their power to some elected ruler; which by your definition, would make you the conservatives in that you want to be ruled by a monarchy. Because you know once Hilary is elected, she will be a draconian ruler queen and your voice and that of the people who elect her will be silent because she will have earplugs. And you know it.
I'm game to continue dialogue if you can stop your personal attacks on my ability to read, etc. Which is a dead giveaway that you are a true-blood liberal as defined as today's liberal and certainly not the kind that founded this country. This should be a compliment, should it not?
Forsooth, varlet, licketh the mud frometh my horse's hooves. Eth.
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That is no longer correct. You are equating liberalism with your idea of totalitarian communism, and that is not correct.
And modern American conservatives obviously do NOT believe in smaller governement.
Um, what???? Are you on drugs?
Wrong on a counts.
As always, conservatives resist change. Liberals want change. Simple. Now, in terms of who has all the money and power, are they likely to be liberal or conservative?
As much as I hate to admit it.... today's Republican representatives we have elected as our voice in Washington have bought in to the spend, spend, spend mania. I hate this as much as I imagine some Democrats hate the Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards and ugh, double ugh, Screaming Dean.
Yes, agreed. Both are examples of the old saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely." IMHO.
The thing that is different for me, is that liberals want to spend taxpayers money on social programs. conservatives want to keep it with the wealthy and ignore the poor. I feel that a decent society MUST care for their disadvantaged. We can't reduce spending on Medicare and SS when the demand for those programs will be going up. Too many kids don't have adequate food, medical care, and education. This is going to cost us in the long run, and IMHO it's the conservatives who don't care about these things.
It's not that we don't care, it's that we see the value in work and making it on your own without government. This fosters innovation, self reliance, family dependence, the things that make society and the community stronger in the long term. Yes, society should care for their disadvantaged, but the problem is defining who is truly disadvantage. The so called poverty level in this country is always rising as we keep defining what being poor really is. The have-nots will always say they are the way they are is because of those they perceive as wealthy, it's human nature to blame others for your shortcomings. Social programs almost never work in the long term, time has proven this. We have the same percentage of "poor" in this country as we did when the Great Society programs began in the '60s. Throwing buckets of money on a fire only feeds the fire. What's really needed is conservatives to be conservative.
Have you noticed that, when it comes to social, political, and economic change, those in America that call themselves "liberals" or "progressives" are the one that are obstructing change.
Who is it that wants to continue handling the Moslem problem in the same failed manner as for the last 30 years?
Who is it that refuses to consider changing Social Security, although they themselves admitted it a failed system?
Who is it that insist on clinging to the mistakes of the past, and perpetuating them into the future?
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