I've spent many,many months now, trying to find one of those elusive
"$50 - $100" 220v buzz boxes around my local area (south florida). I
routinely search Ebay,Craigs List, Bargain Trader, l ocal newpaper
and any other sources I might come across.
To date, I've been unsuccessfull. I seem to always be outbid on Ebay
(sometimes the winning bids have been more than the welder would cost
new, Donrt know what is up with that)
Anyways, here is one that no one seems to want:
Was wondering if anyone could tell me what model it is?
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There doesn't seem to be a "Lincoln 225" listed on the obsolete list
on the Lincoln site. There are DOZENS of VERY different models which
contain the nuumbers 225 in the model number, but no "Lincoln 225"
Are you sure that is the model? It wouldn't exactly be the first time
something is incorrectly labeled on Ebay!
Thanks for the reply.
Google says about 8,650 hits for Lincoln 225 welder in 0.17 seconds.
Literature says (for the new ones) that it is the most popular welder
in the world, but there certainly does seem to be many variations and
exact model designations.
This is a fine example of a $50-100 welder. Yes, it's old, but that
might be good because back in the day they wound the transformers with
copper and all of the modern buzzboxes are wound with aluminum. The
multiple lead plugs are just taps off the transformer. This is the old
school way of switching amperage, and it's a real good way because
there isn't anything to wear out or go bad. Sometimes one of those plugs
gets beat up to where you can't use it but you can always swap the plugs
(easy rewiring) putting the beat one in a place where you hardly use it.
It looks retro, the welding leads detach for proper storage, price is
nearly right, if welders are as hard to find down there you can hardly
lose -- you can surely sell it when you find a better one.
I've owned a welder very similar to that. When I bought it (surplus) it
didnt have any connector plugs to fit the multiple, tapered sockets for the
welding leads I made the sockets but was never really happy with them.
I dont see any leads or plugs in the picture.
You might be amazed at the weight of this welder.
If you are anticipating welding with rod bigger than 1/8th and will be
welding metal thicker than 3/8th inch, like farm equipment, this might be an
interesting welder. If it was mine, I'd give it to you.
This little puppy predates the classic Lincoln "tombstone" welder. I'd
guess the vintage at 40's or early 50's. These have lots of copper,
there is not too much to go wrong with them other that pure overloading.
It will likely need a new/rebuild on the cooling fan as well as the new
power cord. And it will be HEAVY!
A bigger deal is the lack of any accessories like stinger, stinger
cable, ground clamp, ground cable, the two cable ends to plug it into
the machine, and a helmet. I bought a similar capacity Airco unit for
$5, put $15 into repairs, the cables, clamps, and plugs ran to $60. So
my $5 purchase cost about $80 to get it running right. that said, it
does have a nice smooth arc from all that copper and iron.
Your benchmark is $235 for an equivilent brand new Lincoln Tombstone
with all accessories and a warranty. $100 opening bid, no guarantee, and
no accessories is too rich for me. I'd pass, maybe send ane-mail and try
for a second chance at $50 or so. YMMV
> Was wondering if anyone could tell me what model it is?
> please remove the "stopspaam" and "dot" when replying via email.
It's better to be a red person in a blue state
than a blue person in a red state. As a red
person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob
at least you have a gun to protect yourself.
As a blue person, your only hope is to appease
the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu.
Art, this looks pretty much identical to a welder I bought a couple of years
ago. Mine is a Marquette rather than a Lincoln, but of course it is possible
that one or the other was making the model for both. As others have said, it
is basically just a big transformer (actually, two transformers) tapped to
produce different amps. Mine does not have a cooling fan (not missing--it
was never part of the design), but as best as I can tell it is rated at 50%
duty cycle at 200 amps. I have never even come close to getting the thing
significantly warm. Though it is AC only, it is the smoothest AC I have ever
tried (though my experience is admittedly rather limited); mine welds really
beautifully, and is so smooth that I keep finding no reason to upgrade to a
DC-capable machine. My machine is quite, quite heavy, but it came mounted on
wheels (well, three wheels -- I had to replace one that was missing), so it
rolls around the shop easily.
As another post mentioned, if the auction does not include the leads, you
would be facing some trouble and expense to make them. I had to make leads
for mine -- first I had to dig the dirt dauber nests out of every single
tap, and clean them up. I made the connectors out of brass plumbing fittings
that I turned down using a mandrel and a file on my woodworking lathe (no
metal lathe ... yet!). I also turned some oak handles that I epoxied the
brass into. The fittings did not cost very much; I did have to spend about
$20 for the stinger and work clamp, and I don't recall how much I spent on
the wire (leads). Unlike someone else's experience, I have been completely
satisfied with the results I achieved, though I did work at it a good bit to
come up with the right shape and size. (I started out with wood mockups,
looking for the rub points to see where I needed to fine tune the shape.)
But here's the kicker: I bought my welder for $25, and could have bought two
for $40 at the time. So, $100 seems rather high as an ending bid, much less
a starting bid!
It does take time, but eventually I've found a couple of auctions where fab
shops were moving or going out of business -- lots of different welders of
many different vintages to bid on. There were a couple of massive old Miller
welders, AC only, 500 amp max output (!), that went for $5 to $15. Of
course, just moving those things would take a forklift ... and they called
for 90 amp 220v service.
Good luck -- I hope you find what you are looking for!
Thank you Andrew,
I also found your old post which had good info in it as well.
Unfortunately, there is not much other info out there on these old
machines. I tried to look up the patent, but that ebayer selling the
patent, didn't provide the actual patent number (he claims he OCR'd
the document. Funny how just the patent number was garbled).
I guess I'll wait till the welder auction is over and then contact the
Thanks to everyone who replied with excellent information and
Yep, that looks like the one I've got. I looked again at the face plate, but
though it says it is patented, it doesn't list the patent number, so I don't
know if this is exactly the same. Mine is a model "350BB." 1938, huh? I knew
mine was old, but I don't know if it's that old ... but yeah, it could be.
Again, good luck. I hope you find something you like as much as I like my
old monster Marquette! If you happen to be travelling up to NC in the next
week or two, there are a couple of auctions that include welders coming up