OT-The party of hate picks a leader

Do you have any evidence that Dean wants your guns or are you just passing gas ?

I wasn't aware the NeoCon branch of the Republicans was having an election. About time for a change.

A blog from UCLA????

Is THAT the best you can do? Presenting piffle as something noteworthy? Geeze man...you could have come up with some spew from MoveOn.org or something....

The basic premis of that blog is fatally flawed from the first word.

Traditonally, Conservative means what has become todays Liberal. In the later half of the 19th century through the early years of the

20th, the meanings became reversed. Need the cites? So todays Neo-Liberals are yesterdays conservatives...and visa versa. So when your blog starts spewing about ancient Egypt and so forth...at that point its no longer worth reading the bogus claims and misinformation it spews out like shit from a seagull during an anchovey run.

The only thing I could find that had any validity to it..based on the time honored conservative = neo liberal:

"The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are"

One only has to look at the "intelligensia" or what is claimed to be one by the neoliberals to see that yes, they do indeed think they are better than anyone else and indeed, they are sadly delusional. The Kennedys, Boxers, Schumers, Kerry's of the Left are perfect examples of mistaken elitist mindsets. Oh..and you of course.

Snicker....

Gunner

It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu.

(Phil Garding)

It sounds, then, like you think you're better than them, huh?

-- Ed Huntress

Is that the best you can come up with Comrade?

Chuckle

Gunner

It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu.

(Phil Garding)

Remember the Million Mom March anti-gun zealot who shot the person who molested her kid..and put the victim in a wheel chair for life. Only problem was...it was not the perp she fired up.

Then there was Sarah Brady herself, buying through a strawman purchase, a deer rifle...er...Deadly Sniper Rifle, for her son.

Gunner

It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu.

(Phil Garding)

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:59:14 -0700, the inscrutable snipped-for-privacy@nospam.com spake:

If the kids aren't educated, fed, and kept healthy on the massively ludicrous amounts of money taken in right now, what do you suppose the problem is, Hal?

Hint: Cons &/or Libs = a big ZERO for the public.

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LOL, The Reason you are losing is because you actually believe all that crap

It's all about Individual rights and liberties, something the left is keen on handing too the government for control.

I still believe..a lefty is Incapable of Getting it, in that if they DO "get it", it will force them to realize how stupid their position really is, forcing them to become conservatives. in practice, this rarely happens.. they stay left.. beating the same old worn out drums.

****** shu

I think shu is still pissed off that she can't use peasants for trapshooting targets. d8-)

-- Ed Huntress

Ed....Im no better nor no worse than any other quasi normal human being. Im good at some things, excellent at a very few, and incompentent at millions of things. My shit stinks, I occasionally get BO, and I dont walk on water.

On the other hand, you will never find me mandating how you or anyone else should live, or stealing your money or goods or land or liberties.

If you want to have sex with a dog, and its not harmful to the dog, help yourself. If you want to marry your Uncle Fud, feel free, just clean up the rice at the wedding. If you want to paint your house like a pychodelic zebra, I would hope you dont color clash, but..shrug..its your house.

The only thing I do though..is try to make sure some other son of a bitch doesnt try to force their agendas or goals on me and mine, or steal from me. Unfortunately...when picking politicians at this place in time, I can only vote for those that will steal less then the other guy, or the one that will encroach on my liberties the least.

So I DONT vote for liberals, leftists or socialists. Which means the Democrats will never see a vote from me.

Pragmatism sometimes is a bitch, but you have to be pragmatic about the things you cannot change immediately.

Gunner It's better to be a red person in a blue state than a blue person in a red state. As a red person, if your blue neighbors turn into a mob at least you have a gun to protect yourself. As a blue person, your only hope is to appease the red mob with herbal tea and marinated tofu.

(Phil Garding)

And we would be remiss by not recognizing William Raspberry, the liberal, absolutely anti-gun columnist for the Washington Post, who came home one day to find some teenagers had climbed over his fence to take a quick swim in his pool. Thankfully his police officer son had provided him with an illegal handgun for such extreme situations and he manage to wing one of the kids as they were climbing back over the fence.

Or Rosie O'Donnell who has no problem with guns as long as its the one carried by her body guard.

Or Dianne Feinstein, who as Mayor of San Francisco, issued herself a concealed handgun permit so she could be armed at all times.

Or ............

Steve.

Hmm. Individual rights and liberties. I thought those were in the first ten amendments to the constitution, eh Ed?

Maybe all the right wing whackos should create an organization to defend those rights and liberties guaranteed within. They could probably get some funding from Rush or the NRA or maybe from those folks who paid a quarter million dollars to push the 'no child left behind' thing. [1]

I bet they could even come up with some sort of catchy name, like maybe American Civil Liberties Association. Or something like that.....

Jim

[1] I think you, Ed, as a journalist, should see if you could tap into that source of funding. Imagine getting paid Big Money (tm) to yak on about something you wanted to talk about anyway.

Well, I'm glad to hear you believe the liberals are as good as you are. It sort of restores my faith.

We'll see who is stealing from whom when the bills come due for our trillion-dollar deficits. One little Republican payoff to the banking industry last year, a "deregulation," cost me over $240. Meantime, the people who live off of dividends are going to wind up paying less than 1/2 of what you and I pay in taxes, as a percentage of their income.

So much for not stealing our money. It's hiding away in little corners that you and I can hardly see.

That's exactly the way half of the country feels about the current administration.

-- Ed Huntress

Yeah. A book of lies about Anita Hill bought David Brock a big, black Mercedes-Benz and a nice stock portfolio. There are some attractions to that kind of work.

-- Ed Huntress

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:46:57 GMT, the inscrutable Gunner spake:

I hadn't seen that so I DAGS.

Wow, the hypocrite really did that! UFR!

P.S: How come you're still quoting Cliff and Strider, a process which defeats our killfilters?

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excellent reply Gunner, I could not have said it better myself. I see a spark of Libertarian in there somewhere...

Wayne

Great research! Thank you!

Wayne

Cliffy will think that these are all fake conservative conspiracy. He is someone that accuses everyone of lying that doesn't hold his opinion. His only frame of reference is his own experience with truth. An honest man assumes honesty in others, and...

Which goals or agendas are being forced on the leftwingers by the right?

Gunner

Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"