Why wait and pay 4 times more? You know the Trumpeter kit will be over $100
and add more for photoetch.
Halinski has a state-of-the-art Liberty Ship in cardstock for about $30.
Designed with the latest high-tech CAD/CAM/CAE and with tons of 3-D rendered
and shaded assembly drawings, this thing has thousands of parts to fill up
your creative hours. It is printed on quality paper with gorgeous 4-color
offset printing. And no painted is needed; just a sharp eye, some magic
marker for the white cut edges, a sharp knife and some white glue.
It is the USS Jeremiah O'Brien in 1/200th scale and with a good construction
job will equal or exceed resin or plastic in detail and realism. As a bonus,
you get a very nice ORP Krakowiak (British Hunt Class Destroyer Escort). You
can use the DE as a "warm up" project.
You can buy the JOB here ......
Click "Navy Ships" and then "Halinski." Prices are in Canadian Dollars.
While there, pick up the USS Gambier Bay listed just below the JOB. Both
models are superlative. I do have them both and can testify to this fact.
When will I build them? Hah, these models are so inexpensive that I
currently have a three lifetime supply that slides nicely under my bed in
that magazine format. At bedtime I can grab one or two and flip the pages
until the sandman calls.
You own yourself a favor to check these out. Any pre-conceptions about
cardstock models that you may have from the old Wilhelmshavener models or
the Communist era Polish models are obsolete.
An in-box review of the JOB is found here .....
and the Gambier Bay here .....
Trust me. Rather then just sit on my suggestion, I suggest buying them sight
un-seen. They are that inexpensive. You cannot go wrong. At the worst, you
will have a nice painting guide for the Trumpeter, for less money then those
"research books" at the hobby shop.
And no, I have no financial interest in this at all. I just want to share my
jaw dropping enthusiasm for these tremendous models.
Save money! Keep toxic chemicals out of your house! Biodegradable! Easy
storage for unbuilt models! Easy to move if you sell your house! Scan parts
into your computer for backup in case you mess a part up! Reprint them on
your inkjet. Support our latest NATO membership from Central Europe! All
paint/color research has been performed for you in advance (neat dazzle on
Gambier Bay, and that flight deck! Oh my! The wood cargo hatches on the JOB,
you got to see them). Get a sense of pride that scratch builders enjoy. Bask
in glory at your next model club meeting when all the (broke) plastic
junkies exclaim, "I cannot believe that is paper!"
While at the Internet store, buy the IJN Yukikaze that is just below the
Gambier Bay. Another winner.
Estes Park, Colorado
A modeler on a Polish newsgroup has started building the Gambier Bay. A
running picture story has been started. So far only a few air group planes
have been built.
You may want to see how the F4Fs and TBMs look in 1/200th. Keep in mind the
small scale for such airplanes. Each of these planes is about 20 parts in
paper. Each plane in the air group has a different ID number.
A full flight deck of such planes will look suitably cluttered.
See here ......
Heck, I have a hard time folding a letter... let alone this stuff!!
They look great and I have seen them online before. Another issue is
display. They are big!!
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 01:41:51 -0700, "Vess Irvine"
Remove Nospam in email address to respond.
Yes, a 1/200th cardstock Liberty Ship is a big model. An aircraft carrier?
But they are also light weight. From what I have seen, many modelers will
put up inexpensive and structurally weak "shelving" screwed onto a nearby
wall, with little concern about the plaster being unable to support the
This is not something one can do easily with a resin model.
Airplanes in 1/33rd scale, like the GPM B-29 I am looking at right now? Hang
them from the ceiling, again feasible because of the light weight.
Think of this benefit of the larger size. You will crowd out all the other
models on the display table at the IPMS contests. This is sure to get the
But yes, there are many reasons one can use to discount the attractiveness
of building one of these terrific models. I am saying the benefit of quality
realism, inexpensive cost, easy storage of your stash, excuse to learn some
really neat computer software (Photoshop, Rhino 3D), safe chemical exposure,
massive library of subjects and avoidance of the whole paint and decal thing
are reasons enough to at least go out and plunk down $20 - $30 to take a
So I would suggest not letting "issues" get in the way of your curiosity.
There are tons of issues. One of the biggest is the large number of parts. A
4,000 part model is a serious undertaking. The new 1/250th Prinz Eugen from
CFM (Germany) has over 7,000 parts. Gads.
And not even touched on is the fire hazard in your home. Yes, I too can find
issues that say, "don't look into this."
Order the Gambier Bay and even if it never gets built, you are guaranteed to
find value for the money spent in just marveling at the human ingenuity
behind such a model. The Halinski USS Gambier Bay is probably the best US
Navy ship model out there today. The JOB is second best.
Rumor is that GPM is redoing their older USS Missouri model in 1/200th,
using the latest CAD/CAM/CAE technology. Could this become king of the hill
of US Navy subjects?
And where else are you going to find an excuse to learn to read Polish? LOL.
Estes Park, Colorado
Perfectly acceptable and recommend if you can justify a reason for the
plastic frames; for example, if you need a waterproof model. Or, if you are
having a problem with warping, then plastic may be the solution. Or if you
really anticipate some rough handling of the model.
The downside of plastic frames are
2) harder to cut out
3) Unbendible for situations where the cardstock is indicated to be curved
and formed to a non-flat shape
From a pure strength point of view, using cardstock frames is adequate.
These models are quite strong if they are designed correctly.
If you do use plastic, make sure the thickness of the plastic matches the
designer's instructions perfectly. If the instructions say laminate the
parts to 1 mm cardstock, that 1 mm is designed into the mathematical
geometry of the model.
The paper models of recent vintage are designed very precisely in tolerance.
Arn't computes great for this stuff?
Because I've seen some pretty damn awesome paper model kits, but they
still look like a paper model kit.
Very few of the paper model companies use acid free paper and they start
to yellow after a couple of years. I know because I built a
Wilhelmshaven Gneisenau and USGC Eagle and, after 4 or 5 years of
careful dusting and maintenance in a well humidified room, it still
yellowed beyond repair. The same thing happened to my HO Scale Robie
House, and that was a coated paper.
There's no real surface detail on a paper kit. Planking and rivets are
just drawn or printed on the paper.
I have great respect and admiration for paper models and their builder's
abilities, but they are no replacement for a plastic or resin kit.
......and that's why I no longer fool around with paper models anymore.
"The world would be a much simpler place if every one could pick
and choose their obligations, but we can't and we shouldn't."
Major Charles W. Whittlesey
I think I said that you must see the current crop of high tech paper models
to appreciate the strides made in just the last few years.
Then you come along and debate this point by making a comparison to an old
Wilhemshavener kit. Am I missing something here?
1) The old Communist era paper kits were printed on acid paper. They frayed,
yellowed and were miserable kits.
Model printing in Poland today is completely state of the art. Acid free, in
register, brilliant colors, easy cutting and folding. The Germans used to
own the quality race in printing. Not any longer.
2) Art work advances. You have missed the point again. Yes cardstock models
are not as three dimensional as plastic models. But the art work makes up
for this fact. Good artwork fools the eye to make the model look more three
dimensional then it really is. And this is what makes the paper models so
much fun. You are getting something for nothing, and we all like bargains
like this. At least, I certainly do.
3) Plastic models are almost too good these days. Too detailed, too
realistic. All the models on ARC look the same, perfect. So where is
creativity? Where is satisfaction in making something unique out of basic
materials? Don't get me wrong. I am not advocating a return to "model from a
block of balsa wood." I too want a fair chance at completing a model. Paper
gives me that good compromise between scratch building and a mass produced
I will say again. Spend $20 - $30, buy the USS Gambier Bay or USS Jeremiah
O'Brien and learn that it is a whole new ball game here. That is the point
you missed entirely. It is a new era coming at us at full throttle in
P.S. JSC just released a new Gneisenau in 1/400th. JSC models have improved
dramatically since just the millennia. I haven't seen this model, but I
suspect it is very nice.
Polytechforum.com is a website by engineers for engineers. It is not affiliated with any of manufacturers or vendors discussed here.
All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.