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Why not use the NX you claimed the place has where you work? Everywhere mastercam is there you are crying about it. Switch over to NX? Supposedly it's at your disposal?

So looks like your stuck with crappy mastercam x. And I feel for ya, I went back to 9 over x because I hate the interface. But damn man, if its all I had I would of tried to solve my problems, not fighting and getting banned all over the internet over it.

After reading some of your so called rants, your biggest problem is you can't see the little arrows showing contour direction. That's an issue on NX also. Solidworks is real crisp easy to see...so why not try to solve it? Why do you always have to rely on the software getting rewritten?

First of all get a graphics card designed for cad and not games. If you buy an nvidia card, you can get two series, gamers cards or cadcam cards. The gaming cards seem faster, but you can't quite see the fine detail like the cad cards. I have a 6200 gforce at home and an nvidia quatro at work. The 6200 is way faster, but I can't see those arrows for shit. So maybe your using a gaming card? Then there's things you can do to help, like turn on or off anti-aliasing on the card, not in the software. Change the system colors. Solidworks has done an awesome job of picking default colors, just copy it in your mastercam.

Some cards have things like edge emphasis settings, go look, maybe you can tweak it. I did in nx? Now I can see those arrows more than I want to actually.

Youve been kicked off forums, not for disagreeing, but for being a dick. Stop and try to make things work? Havn't you ever ran an old beat down bridgeport? The rules change a little, but the output should be the same.

You remind me of a guy once who got hired where I worked. He had to cut a pocket in a moldbase. The place only had digitals on one mill, and that one was taken. So he said "I can't cut this pocket, there's no digitals?". Now, here I was a few bucks less saying"sure you can, quit belly aching". The dood wigged out, started yelling how stupid I was because I never heard of backlash". Of course I was young and someone had to get between us before I killed him. Finally I milled the damn pocket and he got fired for being a dumbass.

Backlash is a problem, but if you know the trick, it doesn't exist. For me it didnt exist, I drove around that pocket with no problem.

That's you, without digitals your dead in the water, or whatever mastercam doesnt do. If you cant work around it, your are not a toolmaker, you are a production worker, a button pusher.

Backlash is just a condition to be overcome, but for people like you it's an excuse to stop.

Stop being a critic and post some kickass workarounds? Or be owned like backlash has owned half the trade.

Not sure if this is the answer but for sure an alternative is needed to e-Mastercam

That's very good!

It never ceases to amaze me how many feel backlash should be eliminated. Makes a nice story, but it's not going to happen. Those of us that deal with it are the winners.

Harold

Jon, how come you're not pretending to be me on the mastercamforum.com?

Now even better with ADS !!!!

LOL ...

I think it died.

Still looks dead. Did the guys in the white coats catch jb?

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the little white men in their little white coats their coming to take him away haha hoho hehe, to the CAD/CAM farm, where drilling is beautiful all the time, their comming to take him away haha hoho hehe,

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This is probably now a banquer-free zone too !!!

Now kind of full of SPAM.

My vote is "Vinny for President" His post from Sept. 09 says it all. Toolmakers vs Button pusher so called "machinists" Whats really bad is when the Boss says "we can't do that here, has to be send out" oh man, kids now days. Toolmakers can make ANYTHING with minimal equipment. It may not be pretty or fast or they may fuckitup first, but in the end, THE JOB GETS DONE. So what if the boss is on your ass for the die welding bill. Thats why the good lord created welders. They are the greatest arc makers since Noah!

'WMD' = 'Whiny Moron Droppings' and cliffie leaves them all over the place.

The boss has to make a profit.

Found those "WMDs" yet?

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Profit yes, big personal bonus at Christmas time for saving the company $ by beating down employees, mom&pop suppliers/venders, basically being a cheap ass - squeezing Lincoln till he cry's as the dollar bills fly out the window.................. ahhhh I don't think so.

The problem a lot of shops have is they concentrate on the details and forget the big picture. How many shops out there are stretching endmills out, or dressing grinding wheels till they are 1/2 their diameter, or stressing about welding bills. Average mold shops in America charge 50-80$ hr shop labor.

So a mold takes 500hrs to build, at 60$hr, and the boss is sweating a 200$ welding bill, or sweating an extra 200$ in cutters, or using brass wire on the wire edm as opposed to coated because it costs twice the price.

What needs to be done is a cost analysis on these things.

Lets use coated wire vs cheap brass as an example, you can surely see the same thing in welding, cutters, etc...

A roll of brass wire is 80$. A roll of coated is 200$. WOW....big savings going to the brass right..pffft. Every damn shop in town is using brass now, it's like mass stupididty. A roll of wire burns 20 hrs. So you divide 20 by the cost. That's 4$ an hr for brass. And 10$ an hr for coated. WOW...AGAIN, what a savings going to the brass....NOT!

When we look at it as part of the BIG picture you will find the coated is the only way to go.

Now lets say the coated cuts 10% faster. It doesn't, it cuts from 30-70% faster plus, but lets just say you only get 10% faster. 10% of 60$ is 6$. So you save 6$ an hr in shop labor using the coated. So at just a 10% increase you end up spending the exact same dollars per hour. Any increase from using the coated over 10% is pure profit.

Now add to that you can easily get 30% increase, and most shops charge more for wire edm than milling, you are talking BIG savings going to coated. Yet most shops in my area have gone to brass to save money.

****** endmills. This one kills me. Ok, back to 60$ an hr shop labor. Lets say an endmill is 20$. So by stretching an endmill out 200% of its life thats a direct savings of 20$. All that endmill has to do is save 20 minutes to pay for itself. The life of the endmill might be 24hrs. That's 480 minutes. 20 minutes is 4% of that cutters life. So....if using a new cutter can cut 4% more efficient, it pays for itself. So the next time you turn your feedrate down 5% because your endmill is getting tired you are losing money. ******** my math is not accurate, but my point is, and not the one on my head. We need to waste money to make money. That silly welding bill is such a small part relative to shop labor, I say weld weld weld. If todays welding is as good as virgin steel, and the welder doesnt cause a delivery date issue, weld weld weld. Eat thru endmills, grinding wheels etc... A new grinding wheel is 15 bux. A worn wheel requires a lot more dresses, and at the end of 100hrs of grinding it adds up to a lot more than 15 bux of shop labor. Dress off an inch and throw it in the trash. Don't sweat the 15 bux the wheel costs, sweat the 60$hr shop labor at 50hrs a week/guy.

See the section in volume 2 of the MDH.

Then you need a union.

Working togethrer is best for al but that's socialism or communism .... Plus some shop rats really are dumber than rocks.