OT: Reviews needed.

In our industry they are known as "Banquer's".

Same thing happened to me when SDRC took over CAMMAX, the upgrade path Artisan with GenMach they tried to pawn off on us SmartCAM users was nothing less than horrible.

Happened to me buying a new GM car 25 years ago, spent more time in at the dealer for repairs the first year than it spent in my driveway. Never bought another GM product and never will, that is the real price of poor quality, losing a customer for life.

Lucky for them most customers are happy, very happy with the product.

Your situation seems to be a niche market to them and one they according to you don't understand well. However them having misrepresented the product as they have, they should if asked by you offer a refund. If no refund then at least free upgrades till issues are resolved, something to offset your costs due to their misrepresentations.

Tom

Seems UG now owns sdrc, camax, etc... NX feels a little like camax and smartcam mixed together. Has the look of camax and the feel of smartcam.

SmartCAM and Camax had some great programmers that produced products way ahead of their time. Now SDRC's Artisan with GenMach was sooo bad and convoluted a patchwork of modules I swear it was so bad it looked like Cliff could have been instrumental in it's development.

I have NO idea how SDRC could get as big as they did producing POS products like that.

-- Tom

First off Jon you didn't say "don't buy" SDRC you just made your normal general posts copying, pasting and plagiarizing others without having any first hand knowledge of the subject or programs involved.

Secondly you have selective memory by forgetting my response to your posts on this subject. You know, where I told you we didn't purchase Artisan and GenMach it was given free to all SmartCAM users with a current software maintenance agreement which we were.

So Jon why are you not using NX? You said your company bought it and you would be using it starting last January.

You posted claims where NX6-ST is 100X faster so your company could lay off 95 of their 100 engineers and still be way ahead. Right?

-- Tom

And you know this exactly how?

You don't use it, you won't take the time to learn it even though you say your company bought it nearly eight months ago.

If it is such a good product as you proclaim wouldn't it be worth your time to learn or did you just get caught in another lie?

-- Tom

How many legal seats of CAM software do YOU own, Jon?

Downloading cracked copies of software doesn't make a person bright. It makes them a thief.

One of Jon's aliases was "caught" on a bit torrent site, mentioning that he's already downloaded Gibbs, and that he was looking for Mastercam X2.

We never would have known, except he was stupid enough to post with that same alias here. See, Jon has a handful of logins for Google groups. He logs out of "jon banquer", and then logs in as Larry, or Haywood, so he can go through and mark all of his posts with that coveted "5 Star" rating. More often than not, he forgets to log back in as "jon banquer", and his cover is blown.

Bootleg software is great for self tutelage. And evaluation without time limits or attached strings. And even for our direct competition in parts of the world where intellectual property legislation is non-existent.

I know of a few businesses which have been extorted by the BSA costing them megabux in fines. But I've yet to hear of a single person getting whacked by a CAD/CAM company for learning on cracked software on a personal system in the privacy of a home.

-- Tom

"I'm committed to working with HSMWorks to doing just that."

Jon really stuck to that "commitment", didn't he?

Laughed so hard I spit my soda......

Thanks, Tom

HA! You go right ahead believing that.

Fair use doesn't apply. Pursuing an individual not using the software for commercial purposes does. It'd cost software companies more to litigate than they could recover. Unless of course the company is associated with the recording industry which was recently awarded a 1.92 million dollar settlement from a woman who had 24 MP3s of music she had purchased on her computer.

In mold machining, most of the people I know at the top of their game honed their skills on cracked copies of the software they use at work on their own time, on their own equipment at home. That's not a bad thing for the programmers, or the software companies.

Personal opinion; Best thing that ever happened to AutoCAD and MasterCAM is cracked versions and inexpensive student versions of the programs were pervasive and people used them to learn on their own time. When for profit companies wanted to buy a CAD or CAM program they checked with people like what they know and recommended those programs for purchase. Around here it was AutoCAD, MasterCAM in the

-- Tom

This is usually a taboo subject very few people want to even get near.

I agree 100% with that opinion.

"Rough start." That's first step's a doozie, isn't it?

Why would you need advanced surface training on Solidworks? You claimed that your employer purchased NX and would start using it in January 09?