Re: Which Way Would You Rather Modify This Part?

Well according to your posts you were just beginning to learn SolidWorks after a 10 year absence. You know where you paid $600 for the SolidProfessor videos & purchased Matt Lombard's SolidWorks Bible.

Please post where I made any such claim.

All I said was I don't seem to be having the same beginner problems you were having and if you would post specifics more experienced users are more than willing to help you.

A customer gives you a solid model (the one in the video), a single part, from SolidWorks and you import it into any of the "Synchronous Technology" Programs available.

How do you determine original design intent?

Is design intent no longer a concern?

With the original constraints removed (as you claim synchronous technology does when importing models from other programs), when you start hacking and whacking the model, how do you a machinist or anyone else determine original design intent on that imported model, as well as fit, form and function when you start making changes?

How do you determine which (critical) dimensions on the imported model should be locked and which can be unlocked?

And while your at it, per your previous posts, what exactly does your engineering department do while you say you are hacking and whacking customer supplied models so they are easier for you to make?

Speaking of Ignorant, you still think there is no such thing as Chaining in GibbsCAM or SmartCAM?

[ You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary. ] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005 [ Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain. ] -SmartCAM Manual - [ Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied?

I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go, the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:

1) profile start 2) profile end 3) direction 4) offset

So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:

1) start: "The white round marker is where the toolpath starts," 2) end: "the black round marker is where it ends." 3) direction: "blue arrow is the direction" 4) offset: "they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."

Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to another position he just edited the chains start point.

You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM programs have to know that information in order to calculate the offset tool path, by any other name it's still "chaining". ] -Brewertr-

Tom

He's all up in your head now. Just deal with it til it drives you insane.

Barn

WAY too late for that, Barn....

Well according to your posts you were just beginning to learn SolidWorks after a 10 year absence. You know where you paid $600 for the SolidProfessor videos & purchased Matt Lombard's SolidWorks Bible.

Please post where I made any such claim.

All I said was I don't seem to be having the same beginner problems you were having and if you would post specifics more experienced users are more than willing to help you.

A customer gives you a solid model (the one in the video), a single part, from SolidWorks and you import it into any of the "Synchronous Technology" Programs available.

How do you determine original design intent?

Is design intent no longer a concern?

With the original constraints removed (as you claim synchronous technology does when importing models from other programs), when you start hacking and whacking the model, how do you a machinist or anyone else determine original design intent on that imported model, as well as fit, form and function when you start making changes?

How do you determine which (critical) dimensions on the imported model should be locked and which can be unlocked?

And while your at it, per your previous posts, what exactly does your engineering department do while you say you are hacking and whacking customer supplied models so they are easier for you to make?

Speaking of Ignorant, you still think there is no such thing as Chaining in GibbsCAM or SmartCAM?

[ You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary. ] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005 [ Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain. ] -SmartCAM Manual - [ Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied?

I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go, the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:

1) profile start 2) profile end 3) direction 4) offset

So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:

1) start: "The white round marker is where the toolpath starts," 2) end: "the black round marker is where it ends." 3) direction: "blue arrow is the direction" 4) offset: "they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."

Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to another position he just edited the chains start point.

You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM programs have to know that information in order to calculate the offset tool path, by any other name it's still "chaining". ] -Brewertr-

Tom

Well according to your posts you were just beginning to learn SolidWorks after a 10 year absence. You know where you paid $600 for the SolidProfessor videos & purchased Matt Lombard's SolidWorks Bible.

Please post where I made any such claim.

All I said was I don't seem to be having the same beginner problems you were having and if you would post specifics more experienced users are more than willing to help you.

A customer gives you a solid model (the one in the video), a single part, from SolidWorks and you import it into any of the "Synchronous Technology" Programs available.

How do you determine original design intent?

Is design intent no longer a concern?

With the original constraints removed (as you claim synchronous technology does when importing models from other programs), when you start hacking and whacking the model, how do you a machinist or anyone else determine original design intent on that imported model, as well as fit, form and function when you start making changes?

How do you determine which (critical) dimensions on the imported model should be locked and which can be unlocked?

And while your at it, per your previous posts, what exactly does your engineering department do while you say you are hacking and whacking customer supplied models so they are easier for you to make?

Speaking of Ignorant, you still think there is no such thing as Chaining in GibbsCAM or SmartCAM?

[ You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary. ] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005 [ Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain. ] -SmartCAM Manual - [ Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied?

I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go, the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:

1) profile start 2) profile end 3) direction 4) offset

So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:

1) start: "The white round marker is where the toolpath starts," 2) end: "the black round marker is where it ends." 3) direction: "blue arrow is the direction" 4) offset: "they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."

Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to another position he just edited the chains start point.

You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM programs have to know that information in order to calculate the offset tool path, by any other name it's still "chaining". ] -Brewertr-

Tom

Jon,

Can you be an expert on Guitar from Videos, Books, Glossy Advertisements & Marketing Buzzwords, without ever picking up a Guitar hands on, learning and playing it?

Tom

Well according to your posts you were just beginning to learn SolidWorks after a 10 year absence. You know where you paid $600 for the SolidProfessor videos & purchased Matt Lombard's SolidWorks Bible.

Please post where I made any such claim.

All I said was I don't seem to be having the same beginner problems you were having and if you would post specifics more experienced users are more than willing to help you.

A customer gives you a solid model (the one in the video), a single part, from SolidWorks and you import it into any of the "Synchronous Technology" Programs available.

How do you determine original design intent?

Is design intent no longer a concern?

With the original constraints removed (as you claim synchronous technology does when importing models from other programs), when you start hacking and whacking the model, how do you a machinist or anyone else determine original design intent on that imported model, as well as fit, form and function when you start making changes?

How do you determine which (critical) dimensions on the imported model should be locked and which can be unlocked?

And while your at it, per your previous posts, what exactly does your engineering department do while you say you are hacking and whacking customer supplied models so they are easier for you to make?

Speaking of Ignorant, you still think there is no such thing as Chaining in GibbsCAM or SmartCAM?

[ You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary. ] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005 [ Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain. ] -SmartCAM Manual - [ Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied?

I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go, the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:

1) profile start 2) profile end 3) direction 4) offset

So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:

1) start: "The white round marker is where the toolpath starts," 2) end: "the black round marker is where it ends." 3) direction: "blue arrow is the direction" 4) offset: "they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."

Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to another position he just edited the chains start point.

You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM programs have to know that information in order to calculate the offset tool path, by any other name it's still "chaining". ] -Brewertr-

Tom

Well according to your posts you were just beginning to learn SolidWorks after a 10 year absence. You know where you paid $600 for the SolidProfessor videos & purchased Matt Lombard's SolidWorks Bible.

Please post where I made any such claim.

All I said was I don't seem to be having the same beginner problems you were having and if you would post specifics more experienced users are more than willing to help you.

A customer gives you a solid model (the one in the video), a single part, from SolidWorks and you import it into any of the "Synchronous Technology" Programs available.

How do you determine original design intent?

Is design intent no longer a concern?

With the original constraints removed (as you claim synchronous technology does when importing models from other programs), when you start hacking and whacking the model, how do you a machinist or anyone else determine original design intent on that imported model, as well as fit, form and function when you start making changes?

How do you determine which (critical) dimensions on the imported model should be locked and which can be unlocked?

And while your at it, per your previous posts, what exactly does your engineering department do while you say you are hacking and whacking customer supplied models so they are easier for you to make?

Speaking of Ignorant, you still think there is no such thing as Chaining in GibbsCAM or SmartCAM?

[ You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary. ] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005 [ Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using modeling tools such as Chain. ] -SmartCAM Manual - [ Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied?

I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go, the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:

1) profile start 2) profile end 3) direction 4) offset

So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:

1) start: "The white round marker is where the toolpath starts," 2) end: "the black round marker is where it ends." 3) direction: "blue arrow is the direction" 4) offset: "they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."

Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to another position he just edited the chains start point.

You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM programs have to know that information in order to calculate the offset tool path, by any other name it's still "chaining". ] -Brewertr-

Tom

Jon,

Your company has SolidWorks (according to you). You need to learn how to use the software you have.

Wake up Jon, your commenting on, watching videos of, reading glossy adds and being impressed by new buzzwords about software you don't own, you have never seen & your company doesn't use is not going to change a thing for you.

Tom

Jon,

Wake up Jon, your commenting on, watching videos of, reading glossy adds and being impressed by new buzzwords about software you don't own, you have never seen & your company doesn't use which is not going to change a thing for you.

Your company has SolidWorks (according to you). You need to learn how to use the software you have.

Tom

Please try and ignore the FACT that I just post the SOS over and over.

I've completely run out of anything (intelligent or otherwise) to say.

Jon Banquer Chula Vista, CA

[ Without a doubt SaladWorks is a complete piece of shit ]- Jon Banquer - May 21, 2006 [ Even if he is removed the FACT is that SolidWorks has won the market. I have never even seen a seat of Inventor in Phoenix, Arizona. SolidWorks owns the market here. Shops that use to use high end solutions like UG exclusively have now started adding seats of SolidWorks.

Hope you try and make the move to SolidWorks 2007 soon.

] -Jon Banquer- September 30, 2006

[ Without a doubt SaladWorks is a complete piece of shit ]- Jon Banquer - May 21, 2006 [ Even if he is removed the FACT is that SolidWorks has won the market. I have never even seen a seat of Inventor in Phoenix, Arizona. SolidWorks owns the market here. Shops that use to use high end solutions like UG exclusively have now started adding seats of SolidWorks.

Hope you try and make the move to SolidWorks 2007 soon.

] -Jon Banquer- September 30, 2006