hey thanks for that i use solidworks primarily for mechanical design which is what it is pretty good at when we do industrial design curvy we use alias studio tools which i was told was the best surfacer out there
that was really the reasoning for the question why would you need nurbs in solidworks solidworks from what ive seen is not an a class surfacing app so why use it as such
cliff really does make me lol i read his posts and think hes verging on genius
The biggest problem with using a surface styling program, for product design, is that you can't complete the "whole" design with it. Things like bosses, ribs, mechanical attacments, etc, are impractical in such systems for many reasons. Whether you use Alias or Rhino for styling, you still have to import the shape data into another system to complete it. This breaks the continuity of the data, and makes many things (like design changes) clumsy and hard to manage.
Ideally, you want to use the same system for all phases of a design. This is why so many people are asking for this capability inside SW.
Cliff, Not to rain on your unemployed parade Cliff but we established that you have also never bought any CAM software in alt.machines.cnc. You were an aerospace worker who rode the US Governments gravy train for a long time before you became unemployed. If you are gonna dish BS out about other people, be prepared to hear the truth back about yourself. What part of what I just said NOT true? You whine is so damned old by now Cliff. PLEASE, get some new material. Michael
I dont need to know any more about your think3 sales pitch, I have seen it,tried it, and it is not for me. The experience that I had with the company left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would rather go back to drafting than use it. They offered me a trial version of the program for 3 months and after the 3 months they wanted to charge me for it, even though I told them that I did not want to use it. The next month I see a charge on the credit card from them. Will not get into specifics but damm short of flying to CA to beat their azz, is alomost what it took to get them to give me the $$$ back.
Now cut the shit and stay out of this. You dont like SW, you dont contribute positively to the NG so stay the hell out. There is no reason for you to post.
The best you can do is filter and ignore them. Of course, you still get the echoes unless everyone joins in but it really does take the edge off.
My guess is that the guy simply has nothing better to do with his time. Cliff too. They live to see their own posts and peoples' reactions to them. Can you imagine investing this much time posting to a NG for a product that you don't even use? These guys have serious problems. Obsessive, useless, and pathetic.
Since becoming unemployed/unemployable some years ago, your ONLY purpose in life is to antagonize people that you feel comfortable picking on. Typical TROLL behavior. FWIW folks, Cliff is a current Win95 power user. Michael
like i said previously mechanical design is what we do most if its formed sheet metal ie pressed panels we do bits in solidworks using surfacing
now when we had alias demoed to us the guy showed us it was possible to assemble a surfaced outer shell to a mechanical assembly which was imported from our cad data
now am i correct in saying then that studio tools is purely for a styling studio or for industrial design companies only to produce models of curvy stuff or can you actually get any manufacturing data from it
is this the same for rhino because if so its ahell of a lot cheaper than studio
now as we get deeper into more free form design we were told this was the best tool for the job
do think we have been robbed or ill advised admittedly we can hold our own when it comes to the whys and why nots of mech cad apps but free form design is a relatively new area which we are finding we are having to get more involved in to satisfy client needs and we dont really know wht the best option was
Wrong direction, you want bring the styled "shape" into SW (or whatever). Then you can split it, shell it, add bosses and ribs, etc, etc.........
In the old days (pre solids) everything was done with surfacing, so to say you can't do a complete design with them wouldn't be true. Can it be done efficiently (by modern standards)....no way.
As far as manufacturing, all of the true surface geometry you create in Alias can be machined. The quality of the translators (IGES, STEP, etc.) comes into play here.
On the other side of the coin, SW is quite capable of producing very complex organic shapes. The problem is, the methodology is over the heads of many artsy I.D. types. Traditional surfacing tools, typically, have a less constrained, more freeform "feel" to them.
I don't know what you do, so I can't answer. What I "do" know is that we have done hundreds of swoopy, curvy, product designs using just SW. So have many others in this NG. There are several third party surfacing add-ins that you probably should have tried first.
Like I said, I don't know what types of designs you do. I can say that for most things, Alias is probably overkill. Especially for a small company.
And AOL . For over a decade ...... Works fine for Email & Usenet ..... nice little old stand-alone (Used to be DOS 3.1 or something ) ... better than all the expensive software Michael has to buy & keep updated .... he's quite confused about viruses, worms & SPAM it seems
A SolidWorks newsgroup filled with more people with actual machining experience who know what tools they really need to get the job done quickly and efficiently ???
More Industrial Designers who actually know what tools they need to have in SolidWorks ???
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