Graffitti

So, uh, you dip the end of the baseball bat in paint and use it like a big marker?

Or you could volunteer the punk to be a pinata...

fl@liner

This aint art - this sucks! Art is painting one side of a NYCTA car to look like a pepperoni pizza! I have a pic of a cylindrical hopper that has this mythical creature being ridden by another one! It's Xtremely well done! As soon as i find the link again i'll post it...

"Big Rich Soprano" wrote

Sometimes graffiti is art, often it's garbage, and occasionally it's just strange...

About ten years ago, while trainwatching the S.P. line up Beaumont hill, I saw a passing tank car with the words "SORRY HARRY!" spelled out in six-foot-high white letters that stretched all the way from one end of the car to the other. To this day I have no idea of who Harry was or what the graffiti painter was sorry about, but it didn't keep me from rushing home and duplicating the message on the side of an unsuspecting tank car.

When I run it in a train at the San Diego Railroad Museum, bemused spectators always ask about it.

Pete

Big Rich Soprano skriver:

Grafitti taken to the extreme:

Yes the page is in german, but I'll try to explaine.

The steering car in front of the train with it's gray, beige and blue colours has - along with all the rest og the steering cars - been paintet in the normal german railway color scheme (red and gray) for more than a decade ogo. And then suddenly one day one steering cars appaears in their prevoius livery (pre 1997).

But it is not painted in the old colors by the german railways, but by "grafitti artists".

Klaus

"Klaus D. Mikkelsen" wrote

Damn but those Germans are clever. They've figured out how to steer trains!

Which brings a whole new meaning to the old line about the woman who was so ugly she could make a freight train take a dirt road.

Pete

On 10/28/2007 9:58 PM P. Roehling spake thus:

Yes; I too want to know just what a "steering car" does. Does the train go off the tracks without it?

Yea, when it is done with the permission of the owner of what it is on.

"Calvin Henry-Cotnam" wrote

The question of whether a certain piece of graffiti has artistic value -or not- is completely separate from the question of whether or not it's creation was permissible under the rules. (For all we know, the guys who did the famous Lascaux cave paintings were chewed out afterwards by the boss caveman who didn't care for impressionist art on his walls.)

As another example, the nose art done on US WW2 fighting aircraft was in fact against the rules -it was "defacing government property". But the fact that it was technically illegal didn't stop the aircrews from committing this crime en masse, nor did it mean that all of that illegal art was worthless from an artistic standpoint.

There are now coffee-table books and websites devoted strictly to aircraft nose art, as there will no doubt be others dedicated to freight car graffiti at some point in the future.

Pete

"David Nebenzahl" wrote

Just a suggestion, mind you, but I suspect a slight problem in translation here... ;-P

Pete

fact against the rules -it was "defacing government property". < Well as it was done by government workers, probably given orders from other government workers (with athority general???) was it technically illegal. Who knows there may have been orders written.

"Jon Miller" wrote

Unlike the Bush theory of government, in the real world a crime remains a crime even when it's committed by a Federal employee.

Pete

Nah.. Remember, Richard Nixon told David Frost many years ago: "If the President of the United States does it, it is NOT a crime".......

I really miss the honesty and openness of the Nixon Administration. (I miss all the investigations, too. Where is Sam Ervin now that we need him??)

"Franz T" wrote

And what ever *did* become of Richard Nixon, class?

Oh.

Died in 1985. The Constitution followed him not too long ago.

Pete

Must we bring politics into this?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He became the role model and guru of the current bunch of neo-fascists in the White House????? (anyone remember who Karl Rove originally worked for?? )

On 10/30/2007 4:40 AM Franz T spake thus:

You got that 200% right, good buddy.

"Dan" wrote

Look around you closely.

See anyone with a gun forcing you to read this?

No?

Then move on to the next post and forget it.

Pete

So you are equating airman who fought to preserve freedom in a World War to gang bangers ?

Priceless.

Stick around long enough and you'll see everything on Usenet.

Bill

PS: Your original information regarding "nose art" being illegal is also wrong.