Lionel Trainsounds Help?

I have a Lionel Lines Classic Freight set that comes with a 4-4-2 Steam Engine. The set indicates ability to make smoke, forward-neutral- reverse and Trainsounds. I found the switches for the F-N-R and Smoke under the engine and the Sound Switch under the tender.

F-N-R and Smoke work OK but the TrainSounds are not activated by the transformer buttons whether the tender Sound Switch is On or Off, running F, R or N, slow or fast.

Am I missing something? Any fix-it-yourself tips?

It was a mailorder and I'd hate to have to pay to ship it back to the vendor for an exchange, or to ship the tender back to Lionel, as I'm sure it wouldn't be back until XMAS is long over.

Reply to
MaverickNH
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Check to see if it needs a battery. Many of the Lionel sound units need the battery.

Reply to
Frank A. Rosenbaum

What buttons are you using? AFAIK, Trainsounds is a different concept than the whistle and bell. I have a Polar Express Trainsounds tender and it is activated by putting the train into neutral and waiting a bit. You need to have sufficient voltage while in neutral for the sounds to work. 12-18 volts should do it.

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Check the volume control isn't turned all the way down. It may look like a round plastic pipe cover on the bottom of the tender. Also, make sure the center rail wire goes to the red connector on the CW-80. The sound control functions are polarity sensitive.

Len

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Len

Please enlighten me, but I thought the Lionel classic stuff, and the CW80, respectively, required and produced ac curren. If the setup is AC, is polarity really an issue?

My 50s era Lionel stuff is in the attic and I haven't used it or the big ZW in years, but I seem to maybe (mis) remember that it was AC. CURRNT,

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jJim McLaughlin

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tcol

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jJim McLaughlin

The answer is _yes_ polarity is an issue with modern Lionel whistles and horns which use electronics instead of a relay to detect the offset voltage that triggers whistle or horn.

Try swapping the leads to the track and see if that allows the whistle to blow.

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Bill

Your loss...not mine..

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Reply to
David Nebenzahl

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The new stuff uses electronics to trigger the whistle/bell funtions. Pushing the whistle/horn button on the CW80 produces a DC offset of one polarity, and the horn button produces a DC offset of the opposite polarity. That's how the electronics knows which sound to trigger.

The old equipment used a mechanical relay that didn't care which polarity the offset voltage was, since there was no 'bell' function, only a whistle or horn.

Len

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Len

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