Go to alt.binaries.pictures.rail and ask for pictures there. Several
posters will have some, and will be happy to put them up for you.
This is the archive of that newsgroup:
Or google on "PRR F7 images", and you will get enough hits.
For example, try:
Click on EMD, then F7. The PRR locos are the first two (top left
corner). However, the green is too light, though. PRR green was very
dark, in fact it looked black in anything other than bright sunlight. See:
The red is "tuscan red", which varies a lot depending on the light.
Model Flex has a good version of it. Many models sold as "tuscan red"
are too light - it's a maroon or dried blood colour.
Some time back a retired PRR machinist once told me over a beer or
three, maybe four, the formula for PRR Green was 1 gallon of olive
green mixed into 55 gallons of black.
'Course he also once told me, "The GG in GG1 stands for "Griddle
Grease" 'cause that's what they smelled like after a run on a hot
Very nice sides
Have you any idea which paintscheme have F3 or F7 in freightservice
Color = Tuscan Green
Sripes = Singe Stripe or 5-Stripe
the schemes have no date to use from the PRR
Sorry for my bad english
i from germany
My impression is that "officially" the freight scheme was green, but in
fact engines painted in all schemes were used for freight at different
times. I'm not a Pennsy expert, so I can't give you dates. Try googling
"Pennsylvania railroad diesel paint schemes."
Doing a quick scan of the color photos in Yanosey's "Pennsy Diesel Years"
Volumes 1 through 6, it appears the F-3's and F-7's were all intended for
freight service and were delivered in the thin single stripe brunswick green
scheme. The only two exceptions I saw in this review were that the PRR
bought two FP-7A/F-7B/FP-7A sets for dual service use that were delivered in
the tuscan red 5 pin stripe scheme. These sets were broken up in later
years and the 5 stripe tuscan F-7Bs could be seen mixed with other green
single stripe F units. Geezer
You're most welcome. Are you aware of the PRR Technical & Historical
Society? They have a good website, but it doesn't have a PRR diesel paint
guideline. It does have the last 12 issues of the online "e-zine" called
the "Keystone Modeler" available in downloadable .pdf format. You can see
In particular, you might look at the June '07 and July '07 issues - there
are some nice broadside color photos of some F unit models that took awards
at PRRT&HS meets, so they are likely quite accurate. Geezer
The PRRT&HS publication, "The Keystone", had a multi-part F-unit bible
recently (2 parts so far - I think we're still waiting for part 3),
which would have all your answers. Unfortunately, back issues are not
currently for sale. The very 1st issue of the Keystone Modeler stated
that they would be publishing F-unit info to coincide with that
article, but I looked through them yesterday & didn't find anything.
I have a hazy memory of someone saying they decided against it.
"The Keystone" & "The Keystone Modeler" are two separate entities.
"The Keystone" is the quarterly print magazine dealing with the
prototype PRR. Its back issues are available through '97, but the
series I'm referring to came out within the last year or 2.
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