Re: Double Door Boxcars

Dont Know My Name · 2003-11-15T00:50:29+00:00

------------------"Slingblade" wrote--------------------Were you just guessing here?!Food products, ----- Too generic of an answer. In my mind, the most common "food products" are palletized corrugated boxesof processed foods packaged in a wide variety ofcontainers. No need for DDsLumber, ------------- Yes, if it needed protection from the elements, or a DDboxcar was available and not needed in the near futurefor a more valuable load.plywood, ------------ Yes, but for Mark M's mid '60s modeling period, plywoodwas still in it's infancy as roof and wall sheathingsheetrock, ----------- Maybe but doubtful. Too heavy a load for a 50' boxcar.Plus sheetrock is a low value product; can't be transportedeconomically for any distance.Bricks, -------------- I can't claim it was never done, but why on Earth wouldyou use a boxcar to transport bricks -- protect them from theweather? If the bricks were baked in a small town that had another industrythat accepted inbound loaded DD boxcars, OK. A 50' DD hauling brickswould have to be a 'only car available for loading' scenario.Stone, -------------- Please.....Paper products, ----- Again, too generic of a term. As other posts havedescribed, a PD+DD boxcar would be more likely that a DD, becausethe closed PD can be used to secure/brace the load.

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Jim Stewart 22 years ago

I have both time studied them and operated the equipment. They were round side up in the railcar. a fork truck with a round clamp would grab them and store them round side up in the warehouse. They wewe in a pa ttern like this:

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Jammed in tight at the ends, loose at the doors ao the forks could grab it.

We always stored on end about 3-5 rolls high. Wasted space usually caused by changes in product mix. Sizes and types overstocked. As a plant engineer, I have several times redesigned layout for the stored paper. About once a year. It took up about 1/3 the plant floor space. Between widths, lengths, paper thickness, coating, and color there was over 500 different types of rolls in the plant.

At the corregator (press in web printing) the roll was turned on side and loaded onto a slide on the floor that permitted the operator to load the paper to the machine. Other than that, it was never round side down. There is also a safety factor, as the biggest sizes could be about a ton and half...

Jim Stewart

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Jim Stewart 22 years ago

For unclean cars at least, the charge goes back to the prior reciever who is supposed to clean the car. If the company did not request a certain car, the return would be charged to the company....

Jim Stewart

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Rhoobarb 22 years ago

..."Dont Know My Name" said blah, blah, blah... I have a small penis...blah, blah, blah..."

Hey, 'Dont Know My Name'. Go f*ck yourself!

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Jim McLaughlin 22 years ago

Seems to be an amazingly widespread sentiment.

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Slingblade 22 years ago

I refuse to reply to, or comment on anything else he has to say. The rest of you, I'll be glad to exchange thoughts and ideas with.

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Mark Mathu 22 years ago

door" are you?

I worded my original question to include both traditional double-sliding door cars and sliding + plug door cars.

meaning. Are you referring

I'm not sure what controls when loading paper - volume, or weight?

I'd have to try to find the source where I saw the double-door (and occasionally just offset doors) mentioned... I believe it was such that you couldn't get as many rolls of paper in car with a single door (especially a smaller six or eight foot door) as opposed to a car with a sixteen foot double door. That was how I intended to use the phrase "load the boxcar to capacity."

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Dont Know My Name 22 years ago

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What do you know! It's the 43 year old needle-d*ck from Chicago. Are you still around? How long have you been posting under this ID?

Still w/o a woman or an automobile, you $8.00/hr. loser?

Maybe you should go custom paint some more of those monstrosities of yours, you drunk.

P.S. It's about time you figured out what "OT" meant.

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Dont Know My Name 22 years ago

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You've probably already read the post by the guy with the extensive experience in the paper plant. He said the largest rolls were about 3000 lb.

If slingblade were really a conductor, he could have told us exactly what some of 'his' carloads of paper rolls weighed. Admittedly a speculation on my part, but I'm sure cubic capacity is the limiting factor, not weight, when loading paper rolls.

Another speculation but with logic behind it, I would venture to say that an offset-door boxcar would be the worst type car to load paper rolls. On a typical 50' sliding door boxcar, the load might shift (tip) toward one side or the other, preventing opening of the door on that side (without further damaging the load). Using an offset-doors car, is it conceivable that doors on both sides could be obstructed by shifted loads? Thus no way to open the car w/o damaging several rolls.

My observation of arriving/offloading of paper rolls is very limited. I've only seen rolls delivered in Plug door boxcars. Have always assumed this was so the unloader enjoyed those few extra inches where the PD moves away from the door opening before swinging/ sliding to the side.

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Rhoobarb 22 years ago

I still stand by my original statement to you.

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Dont Know My Name 22 years ago

"Rhoobarb" wrote

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I'll take two burgers, no onions. And an order of fries.

Wait a sec'. Supersize the fries please.

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