Fer those who dont know,
3985 was 6 hours behind schedule, and it did not arrive in kirkwood
until around 930. it was featured on the news, but not much. of
course, the news gave all the wrong information regarding where it
would be on display..
i got photos of it in kirkwood, and at its' display location today.
i will be getting more photos sunday, as well as footage.
email@example.com (Jerry) wrote in message
okay... for those of you who are PAST the st. louis destination (on
the route), i would suggest chaging your schedule.
I received a email from the club prez (wfprr.com) and UP 3985
developed problems either last night, or this morning. the crew found
a "blister" in the crown sheet. Here's the e-mail i received.
what I know - it
I am going downtown hopefully today... so i can see if the crew knows
what is up.
will report back.
You any relation to that other Mike Walsh....the Mike who used to play
with the big train set in Omaha before moving on to Tenneco? Mike's big
brother Tom used to play with the little train set (Tri Met) in Portland,
It just seems so odd having a Mike Walsh posting on UP topics.
Please don't just hit the reply key.
Remove the obvious from the address to reply.
Is there any expected time (hopefully) when the 3985 will be passing
by Dallas/Fort Worth??? Or hopefully somewhere in NE Texas on the way
On 14 Jan 2004 23:05:15 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Mike
Walsh, JR.) wrote:
The crew said that the scheduled TIMES stay the same. the DAYS are
different. I'm not sure if they will be cancelling the display days,
There was an article in the paper today.
St Louis Post Dispatch.. Sunday Jan 18, 2004
Mechanical Problems will Delay locomotive
Mechanical problems have forced the Union Pacific railroad to delay
until midweek the departure from St. Louis of the "Challenger," the
world's largest operating steam locomotive, railroad spokesman Mark
The mighty engine, based in Cheyenne, Wyo. is on its way to Houston
for the Super Bowl but will be staying here longer than planned. "The
locomotive has to cool down at least two days," Davis said. "Once that
is done the mechanical team will go in and make repairs. We're hoping
to be under way sometime" this week.
Davis said a pipe that brings water into the firebox has a bulge in it
and must be replaced. The exact day of arrival in Houston is unknown,
but Davis said that "We're looking at arrival prior to the super
While in St. Louis the locomotive will be on display from 8 a.m. to 5
p.m. at 1200 Central Industrial Avenue off Choteau Avenue, just south
i spoke to the crew yesterday, and they said that they hoped to
complete repairs today, and begin steamup right after that. They said
it takes two days to steam up, but one of the engineers that i spent
some time talking to, said that they'd use the boiler-dorm to pump
steam into the loco, as well as the tender (to heat up the bunker oil)
to bring up steam partially so that they can operate the atomizer, and
have a better startup, rather than starting from stratch. The loco has
been drained of water enough to replace the faulty siphon pipe, and
the fire is completely out, as they are working in the firebox. I can
guarantee the loco is at 0 PSI!!!! In many photos that i've taken of
the cab, i have the pressure gauge in it, and it reads 0 psi. They'd
better leave wednesday as that is the best chance for me to skip
school.. dr's appt at 1 :)
However if it leaves thursday, im screwed :(
dr's appt at 8
The crew says that they leave at 8 AM on the dot every morning,
regardless of what day it is. It is their deadline to leave. It doesnt
matter what day it is, they leave at 8 AM every day they move on the
The souvenir car has been restocked, since they have to stay 2 or 3
extra days. The consist and loco has been moved around a bit, with the
consist being on the outside trakc, ,and the loco on the original
track, but moved BACK to line up with the boiler dorm (no brainer eh?
They're using plenty of portable heaters, and fiberglass insulation to
help keep the loco warm, i'd assume. Some parts appear to be rusting,
but it is probably due to the weather here, and the loco completely
cooling down. We're currently at 11 degrees, and the crew is one
dedicated crew -- they are working in this weather, and they were
working yesterday as well, when it was 14 deg downtown, and it was
snowing, to boot!
wow, this has got to be a disappointment to them.
and i could send you some proofs, and i
it is NOT being pushed/pulled by a diesel!!! :)
the replacement part was being replaced when i went yesterday and they
said they were gunning for fireup today, to leave tomorrow. all
schedules remain the same, otherwise they are penalized and cannot
leave any later.. and if they leave tomorrow, they're going at 8 AM.
I will be finding out today and will post tonight.
like i say
steam is in me blood.....
cut me, and i punch you with a rage of fury
Roger T. wrote:
>>> What failed, a syphon?
>> They said one of the circulators had a bulge in it. The plan was
>> to get inside the firebox, cut out the bulge, and weld a repair
>> patch on.
> "Circulator" What the heck is that? Or do they mean "Thermic
No, they mean a circulator - I'd forgotten about the UP Challengers
having these. They were a proprietary item made by the American Arch
Company, of New York. They look like an inverted "T", the leg of the T
is fitted to the crownsheet, and the crosspiece attaches to the firebox
sidesheets. The brick arch segments rest on the crosspieces.
I can send you photos of what they look like if you want Roger, as one
of our engines has them.
Kennedy (no longer not on The Haggis!) wrote:
>> What failed, a syphon? Hard to imagine replacing one of these on
>> the road.
> They said one of the circulators had a bulge in it. The plan was to
> get inside the firebox, cut out the bulge, and weld a repair patch
Not a nice job. I don't envy the UP crew at all.
Thanks for the info, Kennedy.
They had a replacement made in cheyenne and shipped to st louis.
it leaves thursday AM.... it was originally gunning for wednesday.
however, the brake lines had frozen up because the boiler was shut
down, completely, and the condensation had frozen up. they were going
around heating up the pipes.
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