OT Concorde -- longish

Oct 24, 2003 5 Replies
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Sad day for me. Shame to see Concorde go.



First worked on the aircraft in 1965 in design stages, & first flew on it from Filton on trials. The engines were loud & smoky in those days..... (tries to get engine link in somewhere!)



I was involved in early weight & balance stuff, including trimming the aeroplane by shunting fuel up & down the tanks using computers ... all leading edge trickery then.



Also responsible for worldwide ground handling procedures, & had some strange problems. One daft one was that the nose was much higher from the tarmac than anything else BOAC had at the time, & there was a small baggage hold with a very small door underneath the nose in the fuselage. Needed new cherry pickers to get baggage handlers up there, & they didn't like the height!



One of my pals on our team left & joined BAC as a Concorde salesman.



3 years of the most amazing life style, but not a single commission cheque!

In later life, I picked up Concorde as one of my aircraft portfolio when I managed a few thousand cabin crew. Was always proud of it, & we knew many of the regular passengers well. It had a cadre of about 800 who were very regular users.



I was working in Florida when the Air France flight went down. Hit me intensely -- strange how an inanimate object creates loyalty. Was much less impacted by Sep 11 as an event, even 'tho I lost friends then.



Used to fly the aircraft regularly. Didn't talk about it much then -- never quite the right thing to say in the pub in the evening when asked what you did today -- "Just popped over to New York for a meeting". Preferred to say "Mine's a Brakspears".



Sad to relate that the last truly splendid flying experience died many years ago. I've never found anything before or since that was as relaxing as long haul flying in the upper desk B747 first class lounges that existed in the early '70's. Excellent space, seats, cuisine -- & your own chiefie for a dozen or so passengers. All gone now, even 'tho Richard Branson tries harder than most.



Ah, I remember when ..... & to think I packed up work because I coudn't any more bear the charade & irritation of security checks, constant queues, lack of service/courtesy etc etc. Alright once in a blue moon, but became intolerable when crossing the pond every week -- Concorde or not. Perhaps I should sign up for the next run of "Grumpy (even older) old men"



Result is that I still have a few million air miles that I shall probably carry to the grave, if the kids don't spend them first!



Colin



(looking at his original BOAC giveaway Concorde model -- even 'tho it never flew in BOAC ownership)


Colin, you make me green with envy. I was fortunate to fly Concorde once. Such an experience and one I shall always treasure. How can such a machine generate so much emotion. Such a beautifull shape and sight. I shall be watching the last arrival on TV this afternoon and hoping that one of the aircraft will continue flying. A strange thing is that when any other aircraft flies, people say "there's a

747/Spitfire/Dakota" etc. When Concorde flies, they say, "there's Concorde" not "a Concorde". A sad day indeed. There has been nothing else like it for 30 years and there won't be again for a long time to come. That probably makes today even worse.

John

You're a lucky man to have been involved with such a tremendous aeroplane.

I could never fathom why there weren't any huge pile-ups on the M25 when Concorde took off over the motorway. The first time I was driving along the M25 in that part of the world and the aircraft flew over with full reheat, it gave me a tremendous jolt and it was very hard to keep my eyes on the road.

I was hanging around at Kennedy Airport, New York about 25 years ago waiting for a standby ticket to fly home, when I saw a DC3 taxiing out to take off, followed immediately by Concorde. The DC3 turned off the taxiway onto the runway about half way up, while the Concorde carried on taxiing to the very threshold of the runway. The DC3 began its take off, slowly, its tail eventually coming up and then the aircraft floated gently off the runway; just beautiful. Inside the terminal I couldn't hear a thing. And then the whole place shook as Concorde began its take off - like a bullet and then that steep climb. The contrast was fabulous - 40 years of aircraft evolution portrayed in a few stunning moments.

When we were living in London we could always tell when Concorde was flying over because of the noise and crackle in the air. My wife used to say that I would have an accident one day, watching Concorde out of the car window while driving. She was half right; I rode my motorcycle into the back of a Cavalier in Fulham one morning on my way to work - I looked up at Concorde just as the Cavalier decided to slow. No damage to me, but the motorcycle needed a new fairing.

One of my clients chartered Concorde for a day in January, 1987 when 98 of us flew to Marrakech for lunch! It was a wonderful experience; we took off from Heathrow at 9.00am on the dot, and landed back 12-hours later to the minute. In between we had been 2000 miles to North Africa, had witnessed a new product launch, had been wined and dined in the desert, and returned

2000 miles. I believe the whole thing cost £100K at the time.

I shall miss it as well.

Christopher W.

-------------------------------------------------------------- Truly a sad day. I joined Bristol Siddely Engines (now Rolls Royce) Main engine test dept in January 1965. the Oly 593 project was already in full swing with two brand new test beds purpose built for the job, one for normal sea level work and the other for heated fuel and other such specialised testing. Altho the whole aircraft is a tribute to the engineering skills of the two partners imho the intake is a "work of art". I remember one particular evening when walking into the control room nearly tripping over a line of fifteen throttle amplifiers,all requiring functional checks (boring). More interesting were the specials such as the "blade off "test in a disused railway tunnel near Shepton Mallet. Interesting times.! Mike.H. (looking at his LP datum governor tool.My only momento of the mighty Olympus)

BSE - I was there!

I was IC Finished Stores in Two Shop instrument Room when they cancelled the TSR2 (don't get me started!), got bounced out into Production and ended up as a runner from Four Shop Met. Lab, Ramjet, and the Olly 593 D for Concorde.

Left in the big redundancy push a few years later and flew on Concorde once in the 1970's.

A couple of years ago, I was turning off the M4 contraclockwise onto the M25 and she was just crossing in front of me as I came down the ramp.

Vale and farewell.

Strange to think that in my lifetime we walked on the moon and built a supersonic airliner - and now we do neither.

Regards,

Kim Siddorn

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy!

We were under the 'boom' testing flight path building cherrypickers for exterior cockpit maintenance in the middle east....along with some 'slightly' bigger stuff for Jodrell bank.

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