Gentlemen,
Well first impressions and I'm impressed, the extra 16 pages have been
nicely filled I think.
Lets hope we all do our bit to keep it like it now is.
Martin P
I wondered how he was going to use the space and the bigger, better
resolution images are a good way to go.
I think the partsmart is daft - there is already a "parts for sale" thing in
the class ads - don't get that at all.
Gathering the "facilities" into one place at the end of the mag might be a
good idea - having them scattered about is a shrapnel approach.
Mostly though - a good improvement.
Regards,
Kim Siddorn
kimsiddorn wrote (snip:
Should appeal more to the casual browser who might pick up a copy in
Smiths so perhaps gain a little more circulation that way. However I
don't think it will ever be as popular as the tractor, steam etc mags -
seems to me that SEM's readership is largely restricted to engine
*owners* whereas the others also attract enthusiasts who are happy just
to visit, look and photgraph etc.
NHH
I first encountered SEM when I bought my first engine a few years back, at
which time it helped with sourcing and replacing parts, and making contacts.
As a relatively new convert to the "dedicated scene" I subscribed, hoping to
find it to be comparable to the classic car magazinesbut I find it rather
dull reading, with the adverts being my primary target. I think that engines
are much more specialist than classic cars and although my main vehicular
interest is in vehicles of the Rootes group I found that reading restoration
articles, etc. relating to other vehicles was still absorbing, but cannot
say the same about SEM. Perhaps it is just that I have absorbed some 60 odd
years of knowledge about cars, but am still at the bottom of the learning
curve for stationary engines.
Pete
I guess I could be called a classic car enthusiast though during my
ownership of same (Imp sport followed by Clan Crusader) they were
everyday transport. I used to to buy 'Classic and Sportscar' regularly
with the odd copy of 'Practical Classics' thrown in for luck and I know
what you mean Re. comparison with SEM for an absorbing read. My
favourite articles were always road tests and anything 'technical' which
gave an insight into how something was designed or built (I was also
hooked on Haynes manuals for the same reason). I look for the same
insight from SEM and it is sometimes there (Petter evaluation of
Villiers D270 is a good example) but also enjoy articles about company
history and particularly the genealogy, or perhaps phylogeny, of their
various products. I'm hoping the extra pages mighr bring a little more
depth to some of those.
NHH
which time it helped with sourcing and replacing
scene" I subscribed, hoping to find it to be comparable
adverts being my primary target. I think that engines are
interest is in vehicles of the Rootes group I found that
absorbing, but cannot say the same about SEM. Perhaps it
am still at the bottom of the learning curve for
of same (Imp sport followed by Clan Crusader) they
with the odd copy of 'Practical Classics' thrown in
read. My favourite articles were always road tests and
built (I was also hooked on Haynes manuals for the
(Petter evaluation of Villiers D270 is a good
genealogy, or perhaps phylogeny, of their various
I have a large collection of early S.E. magazines from the earlier years but
don't get enough new info from the current copies to justify a monthly copy.
I was ruined in my early years in my expectations for magazines when on
14th April 1950 I bought issue one of the Eagle!!
This masterpiece by Marcus Morris had a glorious two page exploded drawing
of a Gas Turbine-Electric Locomotive in great detail.
This and the subsequent copies all showing wonderful mechanical exploded
drawings probably started my lifelong interest in the subject.
From your remarks Nick does that mean I'm wasting my time :-))
I also, as you are aware, run a classic car and take Practical Classics
which I do find interesting to read as well but I'm finding with the car
Mags the English is getting atrocious for instance "Resto" whets wrong with
Restoration. I have enough bother trying to understand text speak from
colleagues, my daughter and others let alone having to read it.
I think that there is a fair mix of articles in SEM but agree there could be
more of the technical stuff, but then that is down to the readers.
Martin P
campingstoveman wrote (snip):
All good stuff, but everyone has favorites! Any little quirks of
Listers you could enlighten us on - particularly things which might have
persisted over several 'generations' of engine designs?
NHH
Statement of the bleedin' obvious - a stationary engine is somewhat more
simple than a car! ;o))
Seen inside one antique one lunger built for lasting delivery of a small
amount of power and you've seen inside 'em all! I'm sure this is why I like
the complex APU's etc.
I spent a few quality hours with my ABC's this afternoon (or, specially for
Martin, "Thisarvo") . Fitted 16 3/16" nuts, flat washers and spring washers
to hold down four coolant manifolds. Took me two hours. True, they were all
spanner all the way down jobs, but even so. Talk about fiddly - well, hush
my mouth!.
Regards,
Kim Siddorn
Statement of the bleedin' obvious - a stationary engine is somewhat more
simple than a car! ;o))
Kim,
I disagree, unless the car was built from the 80s to the present, my cars
engine is fundamentally eight stationary engines using a common crank and
being fed by two carburettors, no electricary, no computers and an ignition
system of a slightly different design but more akin to a magneto than it
appears.
Martin P
An obvious improvement to the Stationary Engine magazine would be if it was
published by a Stationary Engine enthusiast,( like it used to be), and not a
businessman.
I suggest that you are being a tad naive there Charles. An enthusiast would
have canned it long since if only to stop the constant whine that
enthusiasts emit.
ttfn
Roland
Hmm, having met and corresponded with "the businessman" a fair bit over
the last few years I think you are verging on offensive with that one.
We have found him supportive to the museum and enthusiastic about the
hobby - not quite sure what else you would want.
Paul
Paul,
I don't think Charles is intending to be offensive just making an obvious
point, you know the Editor better than most but the average reader would see
him as a Business man because of what he does, publish various specialist
magazines which at the end of the day for Kelsey Publishing has to make
money.
I also agree with Roland's point about an enthusiast running it, all Kelsey
publishing have to do is produce the magazine and take a back seat when it
comes to the inevitable politics that arise from the those that actually
write the pieces, us.
Martin P
Businessman he may be - so am I! - but that doesn't stop him being an
enthusiast. His replies to my questions, his treatment of the stuff I write,
the constant attention to the magazine all say to me that this is one
committed individual and we would all be the worse for his absence.
Long may he continue!
Regards,
Kim Siddorn
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