I have an Airfix model of an ex LMS 20 ton brake van finished in bauxite
with yellow ends and yellow side lookouts.
Can anyone clarify what the yellow markings signify, please?
Thanks.
- posted 10 years ago
Airfix Brake Van
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- posted 10 years ago
Airfix imagination ? Dont think LMS brake vans had any yellow on them. If
they had any special features or functions then had extra text rather than
markings.
Cheers, Simon
Cheers, Simon
- posted 10 years ago
ISTR seeing yellow ends in recent times on brake vans used on engineering
trains (welded rail etc), but can't find any pictures to support this.
The only links I've come across point to fotopic :-(
Are there any markings on the model ?
Nick
Are there any markings on the model ?
Nick
- posted 10 years ago
How about this one?
Regards Jeff
Regards Jeff
- posted 10 years ago
Yes but thats not an LMS one nor in LMS livery.
CHeers, Simon
CHeers, Simon
- posted 10 years ago
The OP said it was an "ex LMS" one. So it wouldn't be in LMS livery. It's
entirely plausible that an ex-LMS brake van ended up with yellow ends in
its later days under BR, like the non-(ex)-LMS one in the photo.
Mark
Mark
- posted 10 years ago
Nick - no special markings, just usual brake van lettering on the sides and
'Airfix Products 1978' underneath.
Roger.
Roger.
- posted 10 years ago
Jeff - very similar but the yellow ends are 'all over' as are the side
lookouts.
Roger.
Roger.
- posted 10 years ago
Unfotunately you are going for the simple interpretation. He said ex-LMS in
bauxite livery, ex-LMS being 1 second after midnight on nationalisation day.
The new company didnt change liveries for a while but did do some
overpainting especially of grouping letters, hence a bauxite van with extra
markings is quite a reasonable possibility. Add to that Airfix did some
imaginary variations on their stock (see Pat Hammonds book) - but couldnt
remember if that included brake vans. Alternately the OP may have an owner
repainted version - that being a strong possibility - or the wrong model in
the box !
Cheers, Simon
Cheers, Simon
- posted 10 years ago
I don't know really then. Even assuming it's an old moulding re-used,
I'm not sure that many or any LMS brake vans survived into yellow end
times anyway. Can you try the LMS Society, I'm sure they must be online ?
Nick
Nick
- posted 10 years ago
Interestingly if you do a google search on images there are some with yellow
ends/markings from collieries. Makes me wonder about this being owner
modified. Does it still have the original number ?
Cheers, Simon
Cheers, Simon
- posted 10 years ago
There are indeed, though lacking the yellow duckets. The mystery
deepens, but there are some good pics here with suitable liveries to
mystify people with (NCB in blue with wasp striped ends anyone ?)
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Nick
- posted 10 years ago
I'm assuming it's the one on this page:
Neil.
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except you can't see the ends.No explanation for the yellow though.Neil.
- posted 10 years ago
However, BR continued to use bauxite, so the mere fact that it is an
ex-LMS van in bauxite give few clues at the when the yellow ends might
have been applied.
Jeff
Jeff
- posted 10 years ago
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