Having seen what they call 'weathered' (aka spraying some muddy brown
paint around the lower half of the model...) I'm not surprised they
are not selling, in fact I'm surprised that they have sold any!
They're still better than any of my attempts at weathering. What I wish is
that manufactureres would use a colour other than black for the underside of
locomotives. Around here they are a unifom greyish-brown colour.
I have to disagree, they should be finished in the colour they would
be in ex works, then they can be either weathered (realistically) at
the factory or by the owner, at least then the three options are
correct - no good someone owning (for example) a west country based
class 25 weathered with 'iron ore dust' when it should be covered
with china clay, or vies-versa, at least the gleaming ex works look
is correct for at least one trip!
Try weathering without using paint.
Earth toned make up and eye shadow is excellent for weathering.
Usually, I apply a thin wash of diluted alcohol and India Ink black over the
whole locomotive, this gets into all the nooks and crannies and dulls the
original paint finish. I then use earth tones, blacks, greys and whites to
weather the locomotive using photos as a guide. Once the loco is weathered
to my satisfaction, I give it a quick, light spray of Dullcote, straight
from the can.
If you've not happy with the results, before you apply the Dullcote, wash
the weather from the model with warm soapy water and start over again.
Remove the body from the chassis for the wash. :-)
Once the Dullcote is really dry, I usually wait overnight, I then give
another wash of alcohol and India Ink black to blend everything together.
This final coat can be applied as many times as you like until you're happy.
Final touch ups, like painting brake shoes rusty brown etc., can be done
last. Of course, I also do use paint, of various types, art pencils and
anything else I think will do the job but that can come later as you gain
Check out the photos in my sig. for my results. Although North America,
it's still weathering.
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That may be true but wouldnt we expect more than one retailer to be selling
at the lower prices if that was the case.
Beware of some retailers bargains, they may be non runner returns that they
are hoping will just not be run (whats the estimate 80% dont get onto track
8Fs (and Q1s) were definitely being 'jobbed out' by Hornby two or three
months back and I bought a handful. I'd have bought more but unfortunately
I'd already got enough unsold examples on my shop shelves.
If other retailers were in a similar situation that 'might' explain why only
Hattons appear to be offering them at discounted prices. I shall be doing
the same at Wakefield Model Railway Show next weekend, but other retailers
'may' be holding on to such purchases to sell when Hattons have sold out.
Far more likely, I would suggest, that Hornby offer the 'bargain' stock to
their biggest customers, or that it is only their biggest customers can
afford to take some without having to worry about losing sale on
'full-price' models. I don't honestly think that any established retailer
would risk trying to sell on 'returns' (or at least damaged ones), as the
risk of damage to their reputation is too great. Some of the types that
inhabit swap-meets and similar events, however, are the exception to the
They're still better than any of my attempts at weathering.
Agreed. I would rather add to the factory weathering to make it more
realistic than take an "ex-works" looking loco and start to make it look
mucky ! Simple things like a bit of rust around the bottom of the smoke box
door or lime scale down the boiler side or near the whistle.
That said, I now have an air brush, but am hesitant to start weathering my
sound chipped class 24 and 37 ! as I require a bit more practice. I think
some of the redundant bodies may come in to play here as a tester piece.
Agreed, I've never seen a mucky loco with an 'ex-works' boiler top. Hornby
don't seem to comprehend that weathering tends to start at the top and drift
downwards on a steam loco, unlike a motor car where the bulk of the filth is
sprayed upwards by the wheels.
But on modern DMUs - at least the ones around here - the bodies are
spotlessly clean while the underside is uniformly filthy. From normal
viewing distance, just using a colour other than black would suffice.
Absolutely, but I was specifically referring to steam locos in general and
Hornby 8Fs in particular. I have one of the weathered 8Fs here and the tops
of both boiler & tender, and the front of the smokebox are all absolutely
That is probably because they are scheduled to pass through the
washing plant every other day or so, in another part of the country
things might well be different, the point is that weathering always
starts from the top and works down on railway stock (unlike road
vehicles were the muck is sprayed upwards by the tyres and then gets
blown around the vehicle.