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Jun 03, 2005 15 Replies

Hi All, Sorry to have to post this to those not interested, but I'm trying- after pages of trawling on Goggle- to find out what the common weight of a MK 1 Suburban coach would be, like the Carmine models by Bachmann?



This info is for our guide book, but no one seems to know the answer at the moment. I suspect it is around the 31-32 tons mark, but would like confirmation...


Ian Allan's British Railway Coaches states that they are mostly 29t

The exceptions are : Long wheelbase Composite (C), Brake Second (BS), Second (S) and Second Open Non-Gangwayed (SO NG) - 30t. Short wheelbase Second Open Non-Gangwayed (SO NG) - 28t

Long wheelbase is 63'5" while short wheelbase is 56'11".

Hope this helps.

29 to 30 depending on type See HMRS Mark 1 coaching stock by Keith parkin MA

Trev & Enzo, Thanks. This has filled the gaping gap !

Andy

"Andy Sollis- Churnet Valley model Railway Dept." wrote what the common weight of a

depending on type See HMRS Mark 1 coaching stock by Keith parkin MA

Yeh... you gotta mind the gap...! :-D

"Enzo Matrix" wrote

Ian Allan's British Railway Coaches states that they are mostly 29t

The exceptions are : Long wheelbase Composite (C), Brake Second (BS), Second (S) and Second Open Non-Gangwayed (SO NG) - 30t. Short wheelbase Second Open Non-Gangwayed (SO NG) - 28t

Can I take it that the SLO (Second Lavatory Open) is 29t then?

Andy

You mean "moin der gep"? (in the days before electronic recordings)

If the BVE simulation of the Glasgow Subway is accurate, the station announcements and "doors are closing" warnings are in a Scots accent.

(Lavatory; Non-gangwayed)

Length 56'11"

Distance between partitions, 2nd saloons: 25' 1 1/4" lavatories: 6' 2 3/4"

Weight: 29 tons

Bays, 2nd: 8

Seats, 2nd: 80

This design is built only on the short underframe and works on outer suburban services from Kings Cross and Fenchirch Street on the Eastern Region. Two identical saloons with four seating bays are connected by a short passageway in the centre of the coach. Two lavatories are situated one on each side of this passageway. Screw couplings only are fitted.

Vehicle numbers: E 48000-27

Builder: Doncaster BR

Lot Number: 30092

"Enzo Matrix" wrote

Second, Open (SLO) Vehicle numbers: E 48000-27

Enzo

Great, ours is 48001 ! so that fits great!

Andy

Screw couplings in the lavatory?

"Enzo Matrix" wrote Screw

Careful now!

That could indicate a lack of imagination or ingenuity, or even compliance :-)

Jim.

If people can do it in an aeroplane loo (to qualify for membership in the Mile High Club) I'm sure they could find room on a train.

Larger than teh back seat of a standard mini? :-)

Managed that once - just to prove it was possible :-)

Jim.

That must have cramped your, ahem, style.

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