Anyone know what sort of prices Triang TT models are fetching? A friend of
mine has a couple of locos (Clan Line + 0-6-0 tank), a couple of Southern
coaches and some wagons. He wants to use the proceeds towards his G scale
"Robert Flint" wrote
I think the answer is tell him not to hold his breath and certainly don't
count on these items to fund a move to G gauge. If you stop and remember
that a Hornby Dublo 4MT tank used to change hands for £50 or £60 but today
usually fails to reach £10 on the dreaded ebay that will sort of set the
scene for how much these items will be worth.
That said I will forward this to a couple of members of the Solent &
Southdowns area group of the 3mm Society who meet in our club premises to
see if they have an idea.
"Robert Flint" wrote
From memory the only items in the old Tri-ang TT range which commands a
significant value is the DMU which apparantly was originally a poor seller
and I seems to remember that the Pullman coaches were a tad difficult to
find too. Supply of virtually everything else exceeds demand and prices are
If you stop and remember
Don't know that Ebay has anything to do with it, other than creating a
greater worldwide market compared to say 15 years ago. Surely that would
create more demand because now more people know a product is for sale.
No the real reason HD locos have gone down in price (average quality I'm
talking about - not mint boxed) is that there are much better & newer
models around. Take the HD 8F as an excellent example, for decades the
one & only rtr model of this popular loco, now the Hornby model is
streets ahead. So now a bit of a glut of unwanted HD 8F's in poor to
Kevin Martin said the following on 23/02/2006 11:45:
I would agree with that. I have found that eBay increases the prices
(great if you're selling!) simply because there is a much larger
audience to compete. I have sold all sorts of stuff, including model
railway items, for what I would consider to be ridiculous amounts of
money, but I don't set the price!
I just wish a certain buyer wouldn't buy every Kitmaster Stirling Single
kit that comes up. How many does he need, FFS???
Mint boxed items are for the collectors, by and large, not the
operators, who have the same attitude to capital expenditures as the
real railroads do. :-)
The effect of increasing quality on the resale value of older models is
having some rather sad results. I've been approached a couple of times
recently to take on a collection "worth thousands of dollars", now
available because its owner died. The heirs and assigns are appalled at
the low resale values of the treasures accumulated by Dad/Gramps/Uncle.
Most of the time, they are lucky to get half of the original prices,
even for mint, boxed items. Assembled buildings, scenic details, etc,
have low values or none at all. Brass track is fit only for the
dumpster. And so on. Also, there's the cost of cataloguing the
collection, a cost that the resale value doesn't come close to covering.
The largest market for secondhand material consists of the serious
modellers, and they see no reason to spend good money on substandard
product. Beginners looking for a bargain may buy cheap oldies at first,
but they quickly learn about price/quality ratios, too. They also learn
pretty quickly that a cheap loco "to be upgraded to today's standards"
is no bargain, the cost of parts generally exceeding the cost of the
loco, plus of course the time necessary to do the work, about as much
time as building a kit or from scratch in many cases. And if you want
modern running quality, the replacement mech will cost about as much as
new, modern engine, so why waste the money on an old one?
"Kevin Martin" wrote
Point taken BUT I know a significant number of traders in S/H railway gear
who would beg to disagree pointing out that the rot had actually set in
before the manufacturers had got their act together and started to bring the
quality up to the standard we have today.
One shop keeper (sadly now out of business) once made the point to me that
in order to acquire stuff to sell, add a mark up to cover her overheads
(note: cover overheads, not make a profit) whilst managing to compete with
ebay people actually had to give her the stock rather than sell it to her.
When the shop closed ebay was cited as the cause.
Another trader has told me tales of people coming in to a shop, looking at
stock and leaving, and then returning hours later with details of a recently
closed auction on ebay and demanding to be sold items at the auction price,
not at the price the trader needs to charge in order to make a reasonable
"Robert Flint" wrote
The following just in from our resident 3mm experts, and posted with the
usual appropriate disclaimers:
Merchant Navy £30 - 50
0-6-0T £10 - 20
Coaches £ 5 - 8
Wagons £ 2 - 3
a little more if boxed and variation in value depends upon condition of
If your friend wants to sell contact me off list and I might be able to put
him in touch with someone who specialises in dealing with Triang TT.
"Elliott Cowton" wrote
This occasional trader in secondhand goods was trying to sell average
condition Dublo & Wrenn 8Fs for as little as £20 before eBay was heard of by
most people. Even the tender drive Hornby 8Fs were a big improvement on the
original Dublo toolong, so demand for the die-cast models has been slow for
some considerable time.
eBay is an odd market. Some items sell for considerably more on eBay than
one could hope to get for them in our shop. Certainly we do far better
selling genuine 'collectables' on eBay than we would in the shop, but other
items are less successful. What eBay does, and does well is virtually
guarantee a sale within a fixed time scale, which is often far quicker than
the shop can achieve.
We use eBay as an additional and very useful tool, but I certainly wouldn't
want to try to sell new items through it, although again it can be useful
for turning surplus new stock back into cash fairly quickly.
Any one who blames eBay for their business failing is deluding themselves,
and the reality is they are/were only looking for excuses. eBay is there to
be used just like any other selling medium - it's also far more economic to
use than regular auction houses.
Got to say I've never had this, although I do occasionally get items bought
on eBay brought into the shop for repair. Needless to say those people get
charged somewhat more for a repairs than if an item had been purchased from
me in the first place.
I think there was a gold limited run of the SpamCan.
Not sure what it fetches, but a chap I knew ~25years ago with a super Triang
TT layout in his shed (it was a pretend Channel Island, with a harbour
station, an inland terminus, and a branch to another station) had a gold
SpamCan + coaches which rarely ran.
The mainstay locos were around half a dozen 0-6-0Ts and a DMU.
this was my case earlier on - nostalgia fuelled my purchases when I returned
to the hobby and I bought dozens of items, many of which I have since
resold. Early Pullman coaches - Oh my God, how many did I buy??????
asily - now, if it isn't extremely rare, unique, or in perfect nick, I
don't look twice. Kitbuilt is one area that can be fraught with disaster -
parts may no longer be available for repairs, the builder may have been
crap, and paint jobs!!!!! ...... what staggers me is that someone will spend
big bucks on a model, then countless hours building it, then destroy it with
paint and "drunk" lining work. Of course you buy on eBay where the pics are
pristine and the description is ....ahem.... as shaky as their lining
but I have had fun though, even if I have lost a few dollars!
I am finding more enjoyment in heavily weathering my items these days - in
fact, the purchase which gave me most pleasure is my Magnifying Lamp.....
coupled of course with my Stirling and Caledonian Singles, Lords of the
end of rant (for now)